Dear Sri Vishnu and Sri Mohan :
TTD has some absurd ideas , which are not backed up by
GaaNapathyam , one of the six Mathams founded /supported by
Adhi Sankara .
The 16 (Shodasa ) Ganapathis are at the court yard of
ThiruvArUr Thyagaraja Temple . Sri Mutthuswamy Dikshithar
has composed many krithis on Ganapathy but none on
"Lakshmi Ganapathy " . The Siddhaas and Taantrics have
"Lakshmi Ganapathi" . The SiddhAs even have a tithi to
worship this form of Ganapathi ( DhwAdasi) .
Other Tantric forms of Ganapthi worshipped by GanEsa UpAsakars
are Neela , Ucchishta, Raktha , Sakthi Ganapahti . There might be a mix up
between Sakthi and Lakshmi . Some one cleverly combined Lakshmi
for wealth and Ganaapthi for obstacle removal .
Mudgala PurANam and Skandha PurANam list 32 and 56 forms of
GaNapathy and Lakshmi GaNapathi is mentioned there . It should be
" Lakshmi Daasa GaNapathi " Like " Guru Guha vanditha "
Raamachandran . SrI MahA Ganapathy will be comfortable with
this salutation for His aunt ( according to PurANams) .
VaishNavAsa who have done Prapatthi at the sacred feet of
Sriman NaarAyaNan and MahA Lakshmi will not engage
in writing PiLLayAr Suzhi, ThOppukkaraNam , which are
acts of reverence by GaNapathy BhakthAs and have no
sanction in Aagamam or SaasthrAs . They recognize GaNapathi
and respect Him as the writer of MahA BhAratham
( yEka Dantha GaNapathy) and recognize Him as
the First son of Paarvathi ( ShyAma KrishNa Sodhari in Sri ShyAmA
SaasthrigaL Tradition ) and Lord Sivan , who has performed
SaraNAgathy to Sri Lakshmi Narasimhan as per Ahirbudhnya Samhaitha
is trhe Father of GaNapathy . Things get complicated , Do n't they ?
Let us not get into the complex motives of TTD and its administration as
they reach out to produce revenue producing schemes for their
own purposes , which will dismay Lord VenkatEsa . One thing fro sure ,
the TTD administration tries to meet the needs of all SEvArThis ,
many of whom are not necessarily Sri VaishNavAs or ParamaikAnthis .
The Shodasa GaNapathy Krithis are lovely and some of them in rare raagAs :
SvEtha Ganapathy: Raagam : Raaga ChooDAmaNi
Ucchishta gaNapahty "RAAGAM : KAASI RAAMAKRIYa
RAKTHA GANAPATHY: MOHANAM
Sakthy GaNapathy : SankarAbharaNam
Dear Members: Pursuing this topic any furhter
would be counter productive .
V.Sadagopan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:30 PM
Subject: [Oppiliappan] Fwd: Re: My email to TTD
> --- In ramanuja_society@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu@...>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Sriman Mohan,
>
> Only vested interests are trying to make it popular.
>
> Even according to non-Vaishnava schools of thought, Lakshmi is a
> form of the universal mother Parvati. Hence identifying lakshmi with
> Ganapati is unethical and abusive by any yardstick.
>
> The way TTD have printed it is rather ridiculous and humiliating.
> They have written in sequence "Sriyai namah, Sri mahalakshmi
> ganapataye namah, Sri lakshmi Venkateswarabhyam namah", thus
> questioning the supremacy of sarvEsvara Lord Srivenkateswara and
> anayArha Seshtavam or exclusive belonging of Mother Lakshmi to
> Srimannarayana.
>
> This is how the official Thirumala temple panchangam which enlists
> various festivals and thirunakshatrams is published, pooh-poohin at
> the very fundamental traditions that are followed in the temple.
>
> adiyen ramanuja dasan
> Vishnu
> --- In ramanuja_society@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Mohan <mohan0128@> wrote:
>>
>> The concept of "Lakshmi Ganapathy" has become popular of late, with
>> virtually no justification at all within Vedic thought. Lakshmi
> is said to
>> be the embodiment Compassion of the Supreme Being, whose Love is
>> Unconditional just as the love a mother has for a child. Such a
> quality of
>> Unconditional Love rests only with Supreme Being, Sriman Narayana,
> and is
>> not used to describe any other form of the Divine Mystery. I can
> only
>> compliment Sri Mahavishnu in taking a firm stand on this.
>>
>> adiyen
>> Mohan
>>
>>
>
> --- End forwarded message ---
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~-->
Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/hOt0.A/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/XUWolB/TM
--------------------------------------------------------------------~->
Yahoo! Groups Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oppiliappan/
<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional
<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oppiliappan/join
(Yahoo! ID required)
<*> To change settings via email:
mailto:Oppiliappan-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
mailto:Oppiliappan-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Oppiliappan-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
|
Home Page
http://www.ibiblio.org/sripedia |
oppiliappan-subscribe@yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the list |