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Dear Sri Vishnu and Sri Mohan :

TTD has some absurd ideas , which are not backed up by 
GaaNapathyam , one of the six Mathams founded /supported by 
Adhi Sankara .

The 16 (Shodasa ) Ganapathis are at the court yard of 
ThiruvArUr Thyagaraja Temple . Sri Mutthuswamy Dikshithar 
 has composed many krithis on Ganapathy but none on 
"Lakshmi Ganapathy " . The Siddhaas and Taantrics have
"Lakshmi Ganapathi" . The SiddhAs even have a tithi to
worship this form of Ganapathi ( DhwAdasi) . 

Other Tantric forms of Ganapthi worshipped by GanEsa UpAsakars 
are Neela , Ucchishta, Raktha , Sakthi Ganapahti . There might be a mix up
between Sakthi and Lakshmi . Some one cleverly combined Lakshmi 
for wealth and Ganaapthi for obstacle removal . 

Mudgala PurANam and Skandha PurANam list 32 and 56 forms of
GaNapathy and Lakshmi GaNapathi is mentioned there  . It should be 
" Lakshmi Daasa GaNapathi " Like " Guru Guha vanditha " 
Raamachandran . SrI MahA Ganapathy will be comfortable with 
this salutation for His aunt ( according to PurANams) . 

VaishNavAsa who have done Prapatthi at the sacred feet of 
Sriman NaarAyaNan and MahA Lakshmi will not engage 
in writing PiLLayAr Suzhi, ThOppukkaraNam , which are
acts of reverence by GaNapathy BhakthAs and have no 
sanction in Aagamam or SaasthrAs . They recognize GaNapathi 
and respect Him as  the writer of MahA BhAratham 
( yEka Dantha GaNapathy) and recognize Him as
the First  son of Paarvathi ( ShyAma KrishNa Sodhari in Sri ShyAmA
SaasthrigaL Tradition )   and Lord Sivan , who has performed 
SaraNAgathy to Sri Lakshmi Narasimhan as per Ahirbudhnya Samhaitha
is trhe Father of GaNapathy . Things get complicated , Do n't they ?

Let us not get into the complex motives of TTD and its administration as 
they reach out to produce revenue producing schemes    for their 
own purposes , which will dismay Lord VenkatEsa . One thing fro sure ,
the TTD administration  tries  to meet the needs of all SEvArThis , 
many of whom  are not necessarily Sri VaishNavAs or ParamaikAnthis .

The Shodasa GaNapathy Krithis are lovely and some of them in rare raagAs :
SvEtha Ganapathy: Raagam : Raaga ChooDAmaNi
Ucchishta  gaNapahty "RAAGAM : KAASI RAAMAKRIYa
RAKTHA GANAPATHY: MOHANAM
Sakthy GaNapathy : SankarAbharaNam 

Dear Members: Pursuing this topic any furhter 
would be counter productive .

V.Sadagopan 
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:30 PM
Subject: [Oppiliappan] Fwd: Re: My email to TTD


> --- In ramanuja_society@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Vishnu" <vsmvishnu@...> 
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Sriman Mohan,
> 
> Only vested interests are trying to make it popular.
> 
> Even according to non-Vaishnava schools of thought, Lakshmi is a 
> form of the universal mother Parvati. Hence identifying lakshmi with 
> Ganapati is unethical and abusive by any yardstick. 
> 
> The way TTD have printed it is rather ridiculous and humiliating. 
> They have written in sequence "Sriyai namah, Sri mahalakshmi 
> ganapataye namah, Sri lakshmi Venkateswarabhyam namah", thus 
> questioning the supremacy of sarvEsvara Lord Srivenkateswara and 
> anayArha Seshtavam or exclusive belonging of Mother Lakshmi to 
> Srimannarayana.
> 
> This is how the official Thirumala temple panchangam which enlists 
> various festivals and thirunakshatrams is published, pooh-poohin at 
> the very fundamental traditions that are followed in the temple.
> 
> adiyen ramanuja dasan
> Vishnu
> --- In ramanuja_society@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Mohan <mohan0128@> wrote:
>>
>> The concept of "Lakshmi Ganapathy" has become popular of late, with
>> virtually no justification at all within Vedic thought.  Lakshmi 
> is said to
>> be the embodiment Compassion of the Supreme Being, whose Love is
>> Unconditional just as the love a mother has for a child.  Such a 
> quality of
>> Unconditional Love rests only with Supreme Being, Sriman Narayana, 
> and is
>> not used to describe any other form of the Divine Mystery.  I can 
> only
>> compliment Sri Mahavishnu in taking a firm stand on this.
>> 
>> adiyen
>> Mohan
>> 
>>
> 
> --- End forwarded message ---
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