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SrI:

Respected Swamin,

I am back with some more inputs on agni nakshathra after a discussion
with my teachers.

In the book, "Utthara KAlAmrutham", it is said that agni nakshathra is
Krittika star and the duration of sun's movement through all the 4
padas of krittika is agni nakshathra dosham.

In "Brihat JAthakam" by Varahamihira also there is mention of agni
nakshathra dosham. Beyond this, the computation of agni nakshathra is
left with the interpretors.

Many schools of thought have sprung up based on diverse
interpretations, each based on some logic.

One is that the agni nakshthra dosha kaalam is 21 days. (There is
difference between agni nakshathra and agni nakshthra dosham.) This is
widely accepted concept. This is based on the premise that the effect
of any planetary movement starts one paadam before it actaully enters
a star and ends 1 paadam after it leaves.

In the case of agni nakshathra dosham calculation, the similar rule is
applied. The addition of 1 paadam before before and after krittika is
done. This comes to 21 days. So as per Utthatra kaalamrutham the
dosham is for 21 days only.

I was told that there is mention of 21- day agni nakshathra dosham in
many ancient texts.
The vakhya panchanga writers have developed their scheme with this 21
- day duration as the basis and added further 1 paada before and after
this period. That is why they have approximately 28-day duration for
agni nakshathra. Actually this must be read as agni nakshathra dosham
period.

Another school of thought that is followed by non- vakhya panchangam
writers is the rule I mentioned in previous mails - starting from
Bahrani-3 to Rohini 1. One kind of rationale has been  explained by me
in the mail. The Rashtriya panchanga and all drik ganitha panchanga
follow this rule. Rohini being a sthira nakshathra which is the first
rate benefic for auspicious sthira kaaryams, there is no need to bring
it to dosham period beyond the justifiable limit. So most schools do
not accept to bring Rohini-2 within dosham period.

Now what is this dosham mentioned in texts?
This dosham is mentioned in the context of vivaha muhurtham. We deduce
then that  the heat of the period must have been a cause of concern
for the framers of this rule.We can overcome this in this present day
world of modern gadgets.

BUT, the dosham seems to apply to mega events. This dosham pertains to
the devatha of the stars under consideration who, coupled with sun's
charam are capable influencing terrestrial events (like in garbOttam
as explained in one of my previous mails)

One corrollary I can think of is with reference to Kaala sarpa dosham
about which  a  research is going on. As per texts and corroborative
eveidence from terrestrial and mundane affairs, it is seen that this
dosham (when all planets come in between rahu and ketu, the 2 nodes of
moon's orbit cutting earth's path) has greater implication on the
earth, like, causing massive destruction by floods, tsunamis, earth
quakes etc than on individuals. For the individual, the dosham is
interpreted in 8 different ways, of varying degrees of implication.

Similarly, the combined agni and ugram of the sun and the presiding
deities of krittika bharani and aries make this period particularly
annoying in an otherwise auspicious Vasantha Rithu which is the time
for coronations, kumbhabhishekams and Brahma uthsavams. The timing of
these events do take into consideration agni nakshathra dosham.

At the mundane level, particularly for vivaha muhurtham, there are
other factors such as position of guru and shukra, which take up
primacy over sun's chaaram. So vivahas can be conducted inspite of
this dosham since, the rithu counts more than the actual position of
the sun and guru- shukra position is there for primary reckoning.

Another issue I mentioned in one of my previous mails is about
difference if pandikais in vaakhya and other smapradhayas. I even
remember seeing a couple of mails in some groups last year on krishna
jayanthi that it actually came to be celebrated much late when the
nakshathra and thithi were not there.

The basic rule is that any thithi or nakshathra should come to be
there at sun rise. Such contact with sun's first rays only sanctify (
to express this in our ordinary parlance) the thithi or star. This
contact itself is enough even if the thithi or star were to be there
for one naazhigai after sunrise.Vakhya school strictly follows this.
Usually this rule is necessary for doing any auspicious thing on a
particular thithi or star.

Hope this clarifies.

Wishing  to hear corrections, if  any,

with regards,

jayasree saranathan

On 4/11/07, M.N.Ramanuja <mnr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Sri:
> Our panchangam is Mysore panchangam written by Sri Sampathkrishna Josyer
> if you have heard of him. i checked with panchangams over several years,
> and found that agni nakshatra dosha nivrutthi is when Sun enters Rohini
> 3rd padam (May 24 to Jun 1). There is no mention of whether it is vakya or
> siddhanta school.
> Of course, for Sri jayanthi they mention specifically vakya or siddhanta
> or Mannar or Tozhappar etc.
> I would like to know according to which panchanga it is ending with Rohini
> 1 st padam. By the way, 'ending with rohini 1st padam' means same as entering
> Rohini 2nd padam'. In our case, it is 'entering 3rd padam which means
> 'ending with 2nd padam'. So there is just 3 days difference between the
> two schools. Please excuse me  if any mistake is on my part.
>
> Regards
> Ramanuja
>
> ***********************************************
>
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, jayasartn wrote:
>
> > SrI:
> >
> > The agni nakshathra does start with the sun entering bharani 3rd
> > paadam and does end with 1st paadam of Rohini after covering 7 paadams
> > only. Kindly check with your panchangam.
> >
> > Rohini 3rd paadam means 6 more days approximately, which is not so
> > even as per vaakhya panchangam. The agni nakshathra duration is as per
> > rule of astrology.
> >
> > The computation differs from vakhya panchangam and rest of others
> > which take into consideration the actual position of the sun in the
> > sky. You can find such discrepencies with reference to important days
> > too such as Sri Jayanthi and in movement of planets from one raasi to
> > another. This is because updation has not been done with reference to
> > ayanamsa in computing vakhya panchanga.
> >
> > Due to this horoscopes are marked erraneously leading to wrong
> > predictions. Nowadays, most people (computer softwares too)  construct
> > the horoscope as per Drik ganitham which shows the exact position of
> > planets by taking into account ayanamsa correction.
> >
> > Coming to agni nakshathra calculation,
> >
> > (1) the 7 paada chaaram only makes sense, as Rohini is considered to
> > be a very auspicious star for almost all shubha kaaryas including
> > Kumbhabhishekam. If Rohini for most part is coming under agni
> > nakshathra, it can not be considered for auspicious events. Hence by
> > logic, Rohini can not be brought into agni nakshathra ambit.
> >
> > (2)The approximate time taken by the sun to cross 1 paadam is 3 days,
> > 22 naazhigai and 55 seconds. This multiplied by 7 paadams gives 23
> > days, 40 naazhigai and 25 seconds to complete agni nakshathra.This
> > year (2007 Chithrai - sarvajith samvathsaram), it starts at 1-05 AM
> > early morning 5th May and ends at 5-56 AM on 29th. The actual time is
> > approximately 24 days only. The discrepency is noted in vakhya
> > panchangam only. Even there, the paada charam does not extend upto
> > Rohini 3rd.
> >
> > As far as I know this period is not considered for auspicious events -
> > the rationale of which I wrote on the first mail. Beyond that no
> > dosham or nothing of that sort is indicated. This period and the
> > bahrani, krittika are suited for wars and  destroying enemies.
> >
> > Regards,
> > jayasree saranathan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "M.N.Ramanuja" <mnr@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Sri:
> >>
> >> Smt Jayasri Saranathan wrote:
> >>
> >>> (1) As per astrology, agni nakshatram is the time when sun moves
> >>> through 7paadams starting from ni 3rd paadam to Rohini 1st paadam.
> >>
> >>> These are Bharani 3rd & 4th, all the 4 paadams of Kritthika and
> >>> Rohini 1st paadam.
> >>
> >> Our almanacs show the duration of agninakshatra dosha from May 4
> >> to Jun 1st (almost same time every year!). That is from the Sun
> > entering
> >> Bharani 3rd padam to the Sun entering  Rohini 3rd padam.
> >> Not Rohini 1st padam. Please clarify.
> >>   What is the kind of dosha here and what if any is the
> >> pariharam or prayaschittam? and to whom the dosha applies?
> >>
> >>
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