srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha srImadh varavara munayE namaha Dear Venkatesh, Your point is absolutely valid. We are not here to fight with others, neither it is not our intention to do so. But we should certainly react if someone degrades our Acharya to this extent. To put it in a simple way, will anyone in this world will keep quit if someone says/propagates wrong about his own parents? I can definitely say no one will do that. Coming to this subject, it is not intended to a particular individual/family. But it's ThennAchArya sampradhAyam in General. As right said by Venkatesh, we have great respect to Swami Deskian. Though they do not have as we, but-then they have no right/eminence to humiliate our Acharyan and test our sentiments and feelings to this level. Mistakes always happens with human beings, but if it is deliberately done for some unknown reasons, then it should be strongly condemned. Sri Manavala MAmunigal ThiruvadigalE Saranam, dAsan, K.M. Shantha Kumar. -----Original Message----- From: vinjamoor_venkatesh [mailto:vinjamoorvenkat@xxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:13 AM To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ramanuja] swAmi maNavALa mAmunigaL srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha srImadh varavara munayE namaha Dear Members, I second the thoughts provided by Sri Thirumalai swamy. While it is very good that we do not want to fight with them, healthy argument is not at all wrong. What Sri Thirumalai swamy said is absolutely right, in my humble opinion. In "tharkam", it is said that any thing that is not objected to by the opposite party means it is accepted by them. Do you all want this to happen really. If this (no fighting at all with others) is what our greatest AchAryAs like, Sri P.B.Annangarachariar swamy, Sri Velukkudi Varadhachariar swamy, Sri Puttur Krishnamachariar swamy et al, would have preferred, where will the true rAmAnuja sampradhAyam be today. And if we, now, prefer it where will the true rAmAnuja sampradhAyam be tomorrow. Please note, I am not criticizing all those who support this "no fight" aspect, but I am only presenting the practical problems. The word "fight" is, yes, really not the correct one. As you all said, we need not fight with them and that is never our intention. But when they say something very very bad about us, it is equal to saying bad about our dear AchAryAs. Remember Sri embAr's words "illai enakkethir, illai enakkethir, illai ennakkethirE!". He said this "highly egoistic" looking word, due to his faith in his AchArya Sri rAmAnujA. So if we are to follow the same, any such "alpa" criticism is not on us, but only on our dearest AchAryAs. So in my humble opinion, we have to negate such highly fanatic and idiotic talks to the extent, our divya dampathis want us to do. Of course, here we are trying to convert anybody from Vadagalai to Thenkalai and this will never happen. Also we are not expecting things to change because of our arguments. Whatever is happening is only due the sankalpam of Sriman nArAyaNan. In this context I would request you to kindly go through any of the "vivAdha granthams" (books of arguments) between both the kalais. Undoubtedly, the arguments would have started because of some wrong propaganda from the Vadagalai side. Why, take the example of our list itself. Have we ever written ill of swAmi dEsikan (this would never happen, even in dreams) or their followers on our own. No. Even the arguments that I posted to Sri Sadagopan was based on his wrong interpretation of swAmy dEsikan's sri sookthis. So these "Objections with Proper proofs" are not at all a fight. Rest assured. However, every one of us have to think that it is our own responsibility to protect the true rAmAnuja sampradhAyam and that this is not actually our act but the sankalpam of Sriman nArAyaNan (not with respect to protecting it, but with respect to our acts) I said in my earlier mail that I will start to post some articles as a sort of fact files regarding the kalai disputes. However, if you all think that this is not required and you prefer to keep quiet (in the true thennAchArya sampradhAya manner) I will stop it. I request the views of our members further on this. AzhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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