srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha! srI krishNa parabrahmaNE namaha! srImAn nArAyaNa charaNau saraNam prapadyE! Sriman chaitanya das ji, Bondafide AchArya is that person who attained knowledge from the Supreme Lord Hari in an unbroken disciplic succession without changing the contents. I am happy to know that you consider bhagavad rAmAnujAchArya as one such saD-AchArya. The knowledge imparted by Sri rAmAnuja AchArya is uncontaminated, free from maligned motivations and supremely correct. The authority of his perfection of bhakti is shining in the form of his magnum opus, srI bhAshya, though all his other works are also equally great. He taught the world how to self surrender unto the Supreme Lord as inscribed in the scriptures. Inspite of all his glory, the followers of sri ananda teertha blaspheme such blemishless sri ramanuja with harsh words. Their AchAryAs even present Sri rAmAnuja as an incarnation of a demon named vAtApi, who can save them from the eternal hell for such a bhAgavad aparAda? Not even the Lord Himself can save them. I can understand from your words that you are a gaudiya vaishNava. I have no comment to offer for your belief that there are 4 bonafide sampradAyAs. But frankly speaking, the recent neo vedantists are the people who say that there is no difference between all the AchAryAs, but only the followers fight for their ego. But the point to be observed is that the entire understanding of Sri rAmAnujA's visishTa advaitha is different from sri Ananda teertha's dwaitha. The very ontological position of brAhmaN, jIva and matter are seen in a completely different way in these two sAmpradAyAs. I also have a strong objection to gaudiyA's position as followers of madhva sAmpradAya as there is no real disciplic line. (disciplic line just doesnot mean guru's sishya is next guru, but the guru's teachings are unchanged by sishya when he becomes guru.) If there were a disciplic line, then gaudiyAs cannot deviate from sri Ananda teertha's pancha-bhEda and formulate their own achintya bhEda-abhEda. It would have been proper to call themselves chaitanya sampradAya, rather than 'madhva-gaudiya' sampradAya if they want to have a different interpretation of vedanta. If a disciplic line is genuine, then they will not deviate from the original teacher's readings (in this case sri madhva's). Hence, I do not see any genuinity of Gaudiyas as a bonafide vaishnava disciplic line, even in the case of Sri madhva being a bonafide AchArya. Hence their teaching that there are 4 bonafide disciplic lines is of little value. I do not mean to offend the devotion of gaudiya vaishNavAs or madhvas, but exposing the truth behind the genuinity of their disciplic lines. Please enlighten me, if you see any misunderstanding in me. Emperumanar thiruvadigalE saraNam! your menial servant, srIperumbUdUru vEnkata vinOd. --- manoram chaitanyadas <manoramjps@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear Swami, > > Pranams! > > Hare krsna. > > The spiritual school started by Sri Ananda tirtha is > a > bonafide line.Great personalities Like Sri > Ramanuja,Sri Desikan ,Sri Ananda tirtha and many > more > descend from the spirtual world to deliver the > condition souls at differnt times. > > The lord can be glorified in differnt ways and it > happens according to time,place and > circumstance.Spirtual exchanges are good but it > shouldn't end in arguements. > > Arguements are made by immatured spiritualists.Best > is > to avoid them .Otherwise they become offensive to > the > philosphy and to the great acharyas who propogated > it. > > I have many friends from the Madhva line who > appreciate other Samapradya practices and > philosphy.It > is good to know the philosphy of Sri Ananda teerta > but > it is impossible to refute as Sri Ananda teertha is > non differnt from Vayu deva and his philosphy has no > stains . > > I dont know much philosphy but have great faith and > respect for the Vaishnava acharyas.Forgive me if i > have written anything offensive. > > Dasanu dasan, > Manoram chaitanya das. > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. > http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ramanuja/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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