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Sri:
Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:

Dear Smt Nappinnai,

Sriman Sridhar is correct that Azhvars are considered
as ten in our sampradhayam. Andal is so unique that
she comes under a separate category all together.
Sri Manavala Mamunigal clearly considers Azhvars as
only ten, as seen in Upadesa Ratthinamalai. 

Adiyen's interpretation, which is subject to correction,
is this: Azhvars are jIvas sent by Sriman Narayana to
correct us and put us in the right path to reaching
Him ("mirugaththaip pidikka mirugaththai anuppuvAraip
pOla ..."). Madhurakavi Azhvar immersed in acharya 
bhakti as opposed to Azhvars immersed in His bhakti
comes under a different class. Andal on the other hand
is not a jIva sent to help us. She is the amsam of
pirAtti, who not satisfied with purushakaram to help
us when we get close to Him, came down to help us here
in this world ("kunRAtha vAzhvAna vaikuntha vAn bOgan
thannai ikazhnthu").

It is one thing for Him to descend and walk amongst us. 
It was another for pirAtti to leave Him and come down 
to help us. Her apAra kAruNyam is unmatched.

Our acharyas also consider that her role is unparalleled
and that she is unique from the Azhvars. Sri Periyavaccan 
Pillai in his avatharikai for Thiruppavai notes that the 
difference between jIvas and Rishis is that between an
atom and a mountain; so it is between Rishis and Azhvars;
so it is between Azhvars and Periyazhvar; so it is 
between Periyazhvar and Andal.

As to bhAgavata sEshatvam shown by Andal, our pUrvacharyas
have shown it in several places in Thiruppavai in their
vyAkhyanams. Sure, Andal talks about bhagavat sEshatvam, 
but her bhAgavata sEshatvam is also unmatched - it would 
be a topic in itself and it would be great if we can get 
a scholar to talk to us about it someday.

Azhvar Emperumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Saranam

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan
TCA Venkatesan
http://www.acharya.org

--- vaidhehi_nc <nappinnai_nc@xxxx> wrote:
> Sri:
> Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:
> 
> Dear Sridhar,
> I need clarification regarding the no. of
> AzhwArs. Is it 
> not 11 with the exception of Madhurakavi who sang on
> NammAzhwAr 
> unlike the rest who sang on PerumAL. I can understand
> Madhurakavi's 
> being bhAgavatha sESatvam but not ANdAL's. ANdAL's is
> bhagavath 
> sESatvam too. I'm not convinced by your statement of
> ANdAL's 
> bhAgavath sESatvam.
> 
> Relation of Madhurakavi-NammAzhwAr-PerumAL is parallel to
> the 
> relation of Satrugna-Bharata-SriRama 
> 
> AzhwAr EmperumAnAr Jeeyar TiruvadigaLE saraNam
> nappinnai

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