srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha Dear Sri GuNA swAmin: Though Sri vELukkuDI varadAchar swamy, in an upanyasam on visishTadwaitha siddhantham (available on Chakrika audio) does explicitly mention sharaNagathy as a separate act, different from prapathi and bhakti, as a means to achieving ugappu in perumAL's thiru uLLam, I am not aware of an explicit difference in the meanings for the two terms. The reason I mentioned it is because I did not want my ignorance to be a basis to mis-represent varadAchar swAmy's words. tvam Eva upAya bhoothO mE bhava ithi prArthanA mathihi sharaNAgathihi is sharaNAgathi by definition. Meaning we ask perumAL to be our vazhi or upAyam, because of our swaroopam (Akinchanyam, ananyArha sEshatvam, ananya gatitvam). Prapatti also means unconditional surrender at perumAL's lotus feet. On another note, since Swamy piLLai lOkAchAryAr does not mention sharaNagathy (bhakthiyil ashakthi - prapathiyil ashakthi - AchAryan thiruvADigaL) explicitly, I would think that they are equivalent. I will be out of the country for a while, but I am sure someone knowledgeable on siddhAntham will be able to shed some light on this. aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan, sridhar --- In ramanuja@xxxx, "Guna Venkat" <guna_venkat@xxxx> wrote: > Dear Sri .Sridhar Swamy > Adiyen would like to request you for a clarification on the following > concept of diff between prapatty and Saranagathy > > > You mentioned that > > > Sri Velukkudi varadachar swamy would say that ours is the only > > sampradAyam which provides multifarious paths to reaching perumAL and > > mOksham, and in that step wise progression, the path to perumAL's > > ugappu is represented in terms of bhakti -- prapatti - sharaNagathi - > > AchArya abhimAnam (thiruvaDigaL) > > > > In this sequence Adiyen wish to know the diff between Prapatty and > Sarnagathy, though adiyen can understand the diff , in a general way , in > this context its better if you could clear me how these 2 differs. > > On what I heard about the words of Pillayloka chariar that "Bhakthyil > asakthanukku prapatty , prapattyil asakthanukku ithu" where swamy refers > "ithu" as Acharya Abimanam , now I am reading another link with Saranagathy, > so Adiyen wish to request you to clarify this context meaning. >
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