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Dear Sir,
vanakkam
You mentioned:
> Bhattar replied "He came to the banks of the river 
> (the avataras) only after His devotees cried for His 
> help. 

We talk of nirhetuka krupai of the Lord. Then why should
the Lord wait for the jeevan to cry for help. Why should
be said that he reminded this. If he saves only those
jeevans who cry for His help, then, what about his nirhetuka
krupai? It is already agreed in brahma sutram that the
kartrutvam of jeevan is parayattam. There is no doubt here.
But the doubt is only on nirhetuka krupai and the incident
that you have reffered. 
At the same time, you mentioned,
> even before I can ask for help.
> He is lying here 
> beforehand knowing that I will be near this river.

Then why not the Lord out of nirhetuka krupai save all
jeevans. Is he picking up at random a jeevan? If he
knows this (as he knows everything), why not this was not
applicable in the first case.

I have not introduced myself to you all till this time and
had been a silent reader. My name is R. Manavalan. R stands
for my father's name Ranganathan. We are sishyas of Shree
vaanamaamalai madam jeear swamigal. We are not dvijas.
I have studied mumukshu padi from my father and got to memory 
the divya prabandams. Apart from this, I do not have any
knowledge other than hearing certain upanyasams in temple etc.
I am also member in other shree vaishnava lists. My first posting to 
this group got rejected as the moderator 
said that the topic did not appear first in this group. I request the 
group leader to consider this message. 

I request learned people to help me by clearing my doubt.

nandri & vannakam
maamuni das.
--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "vtca" <vtca@xxxx> wrote:
> Sri:
> Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:
> 
> One day Nanjeeyar asked Bhattar "What is the meaning 
> behind the Lord lying in Srirangam in the banks of 
> Chandra Pushkarani?"
> 
> Bhattar replied "He came to the banks of the river 
> (the avataras) only after His devotees cried for His 
> help. He has come to the banks of Cauvery to save me
> even before I can ask for help. He is lying here 
> beforehand knowing that I will be near this river.
> You did not ask for this meaning out of your own 
> volition. Through you, He reminded me of this".
> 
> AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam





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