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Dear Srevaishnavites,

It is well known that ones kulam comes up from ones birth. However, 
thiru-mazhisaip pirAn deems himself to be of a lower birth different from the 
one, in which he was actually born.

"kulangaLAya EriraNdil onRilum piRandhilEan, nalangaLAya narkalaigaL nAlilum 
navinRilEan.." thirucchandhavirutham 

I am not born one of the 4 varNA-s - Hence, being ineligible I have not studied 
the 4 vEdhAs.

It is well known that he was actually born in a higher varNA. However, he deems 
himself the brought up clan. 
Hence, this deemed birth.

Now, a question is raised? Can anybody deem himself to be in a brought up 
'kulam' than that of the 'born' kulam.Yes, Lord krishNA deems himself to be 
"nandhagOpan -kumaran " thiruppAvai 1. Thus the Lord Himself considers Himself 
as one of the clan in which He is brought up. Hence, for both of them this 
becomes Deemed kulam.

Is is possible that one's clan can change after birth? is a question often 
asked. Be a good or bad varNA of brith, if one gets the nexus with 
srevaishnavism- through thirumandhiram or otherwise-they beget a good 
srevaishNavic clan and get themselves in an elevated pedestal. 

That is what thriumangai mannan states that in the pAsuram"kulam tharum" periya 
thiru-mozhi 1-9;
Is there a precedence? sri vibhEshanAzhwAn, sri mAranERi nambi, sri vidhurar 
are some of such examples.

Deemed kulam indeed
vanamamalai padmanabhan


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