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namaskaram to all
here in this mail i found two things 

1. The opening lines of the Shri Vishnu Sahasranamam
is not a salutary to Ganesha.
It is a salutory to Shri Vishwaksenar the senadhipadhi
of Lord Shriman Narayana.


1.Vishwaksenar who we worship and he has the elephant
face

first of all,  opening lines of Vishnu Sahasranama are
salutations to neither vinayaka nor vishwaksena.
"suklambaradharam....." is prayer of lord narayana
only. we can get reference for such vishnu in
Harivamsa.
according to harivamsa, srimannarayana in swetadwipa
is white not black. according to shastra
shrimannarayana is not black. only in avataras he is
neela varna. he gives darsan to devotees with
different colours in different yugas. so originally he
is white only. if you see satyanarayanavrata story 
" Tatra Naarayanam devam suklavarnam chaturbhujam"
it shows the same narayana as in the
"suklambaradharam"

second. nowhere it is said vishvaksena is Elephant
Headed.
" yasya dwirada vaktraadyaah 
paarishadyaah..... "
He has Elephant headed members in his court.he is not
Elephant headed. one thing we have to remember is all
parishatgana (court members) of srimannarayana look
like srimannaarayana. only difference is Pralamba
Yagnopaveeta and sreevatsam.

--- jasn sn <jayasartn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> SRIMATHE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA.    
>  
> Just happened to come across the folowing mails,
> while
> going through the archeives.
> In the last part of Ramayana (131 st sarga in Yuddha
> khanda)valmiki speaks about the good things that
> accrue to the one who reads or listens to
> Ramayana.One
> among such goodies that he mentions is that devathas
> like Vinayaka in his house become bright.
> (prasannam)
> 
> any explanation?
> 
> regards, 
> jayasree 
>  
> From:  "Lakshmi Narasimhan Venkatapathy"
> <nrusimhan@xxxx> 
> Date:  Fri Sep 20, 2002  3:20 am 
> Subject:  Re: Opening of Vishnu Sahasranamam...
>  
>  
> Srimatha Ramanujaya Namaha
> Dear Shree Krishna,
> The opening lines of the Shri Vishnu Sahasranamam is
> not a salutary to Ganesha.
> It is a salutory to Shri Vishwaksenar the
> senadhipadhi
> of Lord Shriman Narayana.
> We do the Vishwaksena upasanai during almost all our
> rountine yagnas. And, I
> recently heard from one of the best scholars of our
> time that, Ganesha exist but
> he is one of the member of the Siva Ganas and is not
> the son of Shiva. There is
> no relationship between Shiva and Ganesha and I
> heard
> that it is not anywhere
> specified in the vedas too. In puranas too(the
> authenticate ones that Sri
> Vaishnavas consider) only subrahmanyan is said to be
> the son of Shiva.
> Additional news was the the deity Iyappan does not
> even exist and the whole
> concept of Hari-Haran stuff is an absolute bluff.
> This
> could be seen from the
> fact that a. There is no history that says about
> Iyappan b. you could not see
> people with any of the names like hariharan or
> iyappan
> of age more than 80 or
> 90. I heard that the concept of Ganesha as a son of
> Shiva came up after the 10th
> century and that of Iyappa came up in the 19th
> century. Anyways, it is up to the
> readers to find out how authenticate this
> information
> is and not bounce on me
> contradicting this:). Whatever I've said was what I
> heard. Learned scholars
> please correct me. Coming back to your point, it is
> a
> salute to Shri
> Vishwaksenar who we worship and he has the elephant
> face. We have Vishwaksenar
> in many temples and some have the moolavar with
> elephant face and thiruman too.
> 
> Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan,
> Lakshmi Narasimhan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Shreekrishna Akilesh
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:40 PM
> To: bhakti-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Opening of Vishnu Sahasranamam...
> 
> Dear Sri Vaishnavas,
> 
> Everyone is quite familiar with the opening lines of
> Vishnu Sahasranamam,
> which is a salutary verse to Lord Ganesha. The role
> of
> Lord Ganesha isn't
> quite clear to me, especially when it comes to the
> tradition of Sri
> Ramanuja. [...]
> 
> 
> 
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