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Dear seeker,
 
Yes. vratham - is a commitment.
 
In the reply given by mohan one point to be noted is -
 
rama saw sabari ahalya, soorpanaka, thaaraa, later in the battle field mandothari et al - BUT NOT AS WIFE.
 
seeing one woman as wife and just seeing them with eyes are TOTALLY DIFFERENT..
 
as the questioner asked "not seen any ladies even by eye sight" should be taken literally, yes. not seen other ladies AS "pathni" - wife - even by eye sight, leave alone enjoying her physically.
 
- viz raamaa did not see any other lady with the eyes of enjoying her - kaamak kaN Ottaththudan - with the intention of kaamam behind.
 
that is why he is alled Eka pathni vrathan. in the  days when kshathriyaas and that too kings are literally permitted to have more than one wife - leaglly recognised.
 
just compare his father - had 3 wives as patta mahishis, 60000 wives in his anthappuram - courtyard.
 
also compare krishna - had 8 wives as patta mahishis and 16108 wives - all ladies giving birth to 10 children each - not my imagination - but as per srimadh bhagavatham - yet he is identified and called as brahmachari and proved his brahmacharyam by touching the uththara garbham to give life as a child. 
 
one more clarification -
 
point 1. normal rules applicable to human beings is not aplicable to avathaara purushaas,
 
point 2. yuga dharmangaL varies per each yugam. a good example - pandavas and dhroupathi - can it be implemented now? Definitely NOT. like that. 
 
in a krithi thyaagaraja sings "oka maata oka baana oka pathni vrathude" - means one having a commitment to one word, one arrow, one wife.
 
trust this clarifies.
 
MGVasudevan
-----Original Message-----
From: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Madhuri and Mohan
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:20 AM
To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ramanuja] eka Patni Virathan

Dear Seeker,

I took the term to be "e:ka patni vratha".  A vratha, at least in the
way I understand it, is a commitment, a vow, a dedication; if this is
true the term would imply one who is committed to one wife.

If Ra:ma had taken sight of only one woman, then how can we explain
Sabari, Ahalya, etc.?

Mohan

agnidasa wrote:

> Dear devotees,
>
> I have a doubt and seeking explanation from bhaktas here. Shri Ram is
> addressed as eka Patni virathan not seen any ladies even by eye sight.
> Is it the true meaning of eka Patni virathan?
>
> Or is it true because, He is the utimate purusha and all the femenine
> aspects are ultimately Shrimathi and thus Lord is eka Patni Viratha?
>
>
>




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