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NIRHETHVAM

Can this be understood as follows:-

HE is generous.

HE is independent and He may act on HIS
will in showering HIS grace.

HE is beyond comprehension,intellect and effort or
querries.

though it is said that our non-aversion helps in the 
receival of HIS grace, 

only HE has to remove that non-aversion(may be
mental or intellect blocks) too
and there is nothing as our effort in this
and HE is the decider of everything.

It is indeed great as such works are
capable of killing the ego in subtlest forms
and result in total surrender of all to HIM.
************

But can clarification can be had for one thing.

in ordinary Tamil dvesham means aversion
why advesham is used to denote aversion.

and also can advise be got as to  where the said
vyakyanas
are available with translation by renowned acharyas

the reply may be given according to your convenience
can be to the individual email address or to the group
address

adiyen
L.SRINIVASAN






--- GunaVenkat <gunsee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>   
> Sri:
> Dear SriVaishnavAs
> Adiyen wish to share my feelings on the Nirhethva
> Krupai of Him on ChethanAs , as we have heard from
> various quotes from Acharyas and vyAkyAnams that He
> is always ready with the Krupai and its only our
> Advesham that stops! so we heard people saying
> "AdveshamE amayum" meaning, He wont look for
> anything from our side to shower the krupai but we
> should not show the averse to Him , correct me if I
> have spellt anything wrong
> 
> While I was going thru the Eedu Vyakyanam on
> ThirupEr Nagar 10-8-9 "InRu ennai poRullAkki" , its
> gem of the pAsuram where Alwar queried Him why its
> so much of delay from His side, the answer from Him
> was different , like He bowed down and scratched the
> Floor with His foot (amazing to imagine !)then
> immediately Alwar recogonized that He should not be
> put under any such Query and acknowledged that this
> is one of His gunA "ithu oru gunA vishesham" 
> 
> Here Acharyan Nampillai explained the mind set of
> Alwar , that Alwar felt it was He who removed that
> Advesham from Alwar and sowed the interest on Him
> and now coming down to take Alwar to His abode ,
> here Nampillai clearly expalined that it was He who
> removed Advesham , so nothing from our side . The
> style of the commentary is such that till this
> pAsuram we would have read that we should not have
> Advesham on Him , but from here Nampillai clarified
> who can do that too !
> 
> Adiyen felt it was a great eye opener for me ! Sure
> my mail will be confusing to many (beacuse of some
> transliteration etc) , so pl go thru the vykyAnam
> and get yourself cleared, 
> 
> Note : Here Adiyenwish to Thank Sri Embar Rangachary
> swamy for showing me the correct place to refer 
> 
> Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan
> Gunaseelan
> 
> 
> 
> Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan
> Gunaseelan Venkatachary



                
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