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n_kannan3 wrote:

> Srimate Ramanujaya Namaha:
> Azwar Thiruvadigale Sharanam
>
> Dear Sir,
>
>    Would it be possible for you to tell me the time by which the two
> Kalais had become distinct. Were they already distinct by the time of
> the last Acharyas of the two Acharya paramparaigal (Swami Vedanta
> Desikar and Manavala Mamunigal) ? Around what time did the two kalais
> adopt the different namams?
> Please forgive any mistake which I may I have commited in the above
> questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Kannan
>
>

Dear Mr. Kannan,

Neither Swamy Vedanta Desika nor his contemporary, Swamy Pillai 
Lokacharya, saw  themselves as formulators of some unique path - nor for 
that matter did Sri Manavalamamunigal, who was 50 years later.   On the 
contrary, the two contemporaries had great regard for one another, even 
conferring accolades upon each other on occassion.  And all of them 
recognized themselves as servants to the Acharya Paramaparai of Ramanuja 
only.  The differences in interpretation were more the subject of  
scholarly study and healthy debate, and probably did more to infuse the 
community with refreshing new ideas just as any good, intelligent debate 
does today.

Regarding the thiruman, which to me is perhaps the least important among 
the differences, it would be safe to assume that the shapes and sizes of 
thirumans varied from location to location, perhaps even between 
persons.  But, the establishment of the two generalized shapes to serve 
as as the "logo" of a particular kalai came with the firm demarcation of 
the two kalais, which most students of religion place somewhere in the 
mid to late 1700s, when the activities of the British suddenly brought 
out the need to concretize specific beliefs for the sake of preservation 
of the tradition.

Mohan





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