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srimatE rAmAnujAya nama:
Dear Sri Venkat: 
While waiting for others to comment, I would like to offer my humble response 
below: 
* As reagrds #6, it is possible that the vrittantam being referred to here is 
that part which occured after Seeta Piratti was separated from Chakravarti 
Tirumagan which in the normal case(notwithstanding that Seeta is all 
knowledgeable) she would not be knowing 
* as for #7 and #8 , we should keep in mind that here Seeta (atleast for this 
comparison purposes) is not considered as the all knowing Piratti but as a just 
an ordinary person. Afterall, Perumal himself has many times stated that in Sri 
Ramaavataram He has only tried to be an ordinary human being with very high 
morals and not of having divine powers. That being the case we should not 
consider Seeta to be "all knowing" here. This comparison by MudaliyandAn Swamy 
is to be taken in that spirit. (That way even bhAgavatha apacharam is not 
something which we can "accuse" Seeta of! ). That Seeta's role is like that of 
a Chetana caught in the midst of the ocean of samsaram, has been quoted time 
and again in our sampradayam 
* Finally, when similar comparisons have been made by poorvAchAryas and 
questions have been asked by people like us, our Acharyas have said time and 
again that everything should not be taken literally and should not look for a 
one hundred percent analogy. Hope this helps. 
I take this opportunity to thank Smt.Srilatha for having summarized and posted 
the gist of the talk for every body's benefit.
rAmAnuja dAsi 
vinjamoorvenkat@xxxx wrote: 
srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha

srImath varavara munayE namaha



Dear Members,



I am totally uncomfortable with the comparision as stated in points 6,7 & 8.
It seems to me that, Sita was ignorant of the characters of Rama and only
Hanuman explain Rama's greatnes to Her. In my opinion, never. The mahaviswAsam
that Sita had on Rama was unparallelled and what Hanuman did was only to let
her know that Rama is coming shortly to relieve Her. Please remember, Hanuman
said this not because Sita had lost faith in Rama, but just as an information.



On the other hand the comparision of the AchAryA and the chEtanA is completely
different. The chEtanA, as such though a gnAni, is now a total illiterate due
to prakruti sambandham and hence the AchAryA teaches the chEtanA about Sriman
nArAyaNan and makes the chEtanA realize his true form, which is full of
knowledge and hence realize how Sriman nArAyaNan will take him on His own
without him (chEtanA) having to do anything.



There is a subtle difference between this comparision of Hanuman explaining
Sita and AchAryA teaching chEtanA.



I request you to kindly clarify the above.



AzhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam

adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan

Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh




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