Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha Dear Smt Nappinnai, >"You write from perspective of the Lord as if you know the Lord''s > mind very well." You should have read my first paragraph in my post on this subject: "I request that this post be evaluated by learned scholars and I request them to correct my mistakes. This post does not have any authenticity as it does not qualify as a perspective of the purvacharyas and hence is not for all." Moreover, do you mean to say one should not even talk about how that lord would think about us? >BTW,do you think that by your definition of nirhetuka krpa in >English,a layman will get a crystal clear picture of the topic and >also pUrvAcAryAs will be intact? It is Lord's(or AcAryAs) headache >to correct the jIvAtmAs that are straying away from Him. By making these statements, are you saying that Ramanuja sampradayam is an exclusive one i.e no one else should be understanding the sampradayam other than those who are in the sampradayam? If that is the case, why did our purvacharyas write such works? Why didn't they let the lord deal with that? For that matter, why Nammazhwar even came back and gave Nathamunigal all the 4000 prabandhams? > Do you understand Lord better than NammAzhvAr? NammAzhvAr says he > has not done anything and one has to accept it as a fact if divya > prabandham is drAvida vedam/shruthi! Is this the way ShriVaishnavas accuse others? That too, not even realizing what the other person is saying? Did I ever say that Nammazhwar talks about his own efforts anywhere? Why would you want to "assume" something that I did not even convey and based on the assumption, accuse unnecessarily? Kindly think about these. Yatheendra Pravanam Vandhe RAMYA Jamataram Munim Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan, Lakshmi Narasimhan --- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "nappinnai_nc" <nappinnai_nc@xxxx> wrote: > Sri: > Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: > > > Please note the point->"it did nothing to qualify for the moksham". > > This includes the self realization act too. But, please remember, > > if we say "knowledge of swaroopam / opening of the mind is too due > > to the lord's Nirhetuka krupai" to those with a layman perspective, > > then we put our Purvacharyas into trouble, because, here our > > statement would be perceived as if the Lord is partial i.e he > > opens up the mind only for those whom he likes. So, we should be > > careful in defining the Nirhetuka krupai. > > Whether or not layman catches the point,it's left to God's grace. > Just because a layman doesn't catch the point,it doesn't put our > pUrvAcAryAs into trouble! Whether or not I like Sun rising in the > east,it is not going to change its course of direction! If somebody > thinks that Lord is partial,let him think so with full freedom. When > the time comes he will realize that Lord is not partial. Whichever > direction one goes,one will only see the board "nirhetuka krpa". > BTW,do you think that by your definition of nirhetuka krpa in > English,a layman will get a crystal clear picture of the topic and > also pUrvAcAryAs will be intact? It is Lord's(or AcAryAs) headache to > correct the jIvAtmAs that are straying away from Him. BTW,nirhetuka > krpa is the top and prime doctrinal difference between the two sects. > Just to make a layman's life easy(not to think that Lord is > partial),you don't introduce sahetukam or make it "sound like" > sahetukam in pUrvAcAryAs works! Do you understand Lord better than > NammAzhvAr? NammAzhvAr says he has not done anything and one has to > accept it as a fact if divya prabandham is drAvida vedam/shruthi! You > write from perspective of the Lord as if you know the Lord''s mind > very well. > > PS:In the preface of SVB book that I have,Sri TA Sampathkumaracarya > says if someone(layman/neophyte) feels that some of these teachings > can not be appreciated or practised,let him understand that he has > not reached the "necessary state of moral development". I totally > believe in this. > > AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam > NC Nappinnai
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