----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:01 PM
Subject: RE: Prapanna ParithrANam
Brahma
"BrahmAvum madhu kaidapargal kaiyil agappattu kann ezhanthu,
dhanam ezhanthu, nilam thuzhAvi, rudran kaiyilaE thalai aruppundaiyAlum
rakshagan AgamAttAn"
Madhu
and Kaidapa had once snatched the vedas from Brahma. Hence, he lost all the
jnAnam and his wealth. In this context, veda is the wealth. This is considered
as the wealth for andanars (Brahmins). Thirumangai Azhwar refers to this as
andanar mAttu andhivaitha.... in ThirunetunthAntakam while
referrring to the AshtAkshara mantram.
Nilam
thuzhAvi refers to the aspect of one looking down towards the earth with a
physical activity with one's feet scratching the ground as a reaction to an
embarrasing situation. This aspect could be referred to the follwing
NammAzhwar's pasuram on ArAvayitrAn (popularly known as AppakudathAn in
ThiruppErnagar, also known as Koviladi)
inRennaip
poruLaakkith thannathennuL vaithAn
anRennaip
puNarththathen seyvaan? kunRennath thikazmaadangaL soozthirup
pEraan onRenak karuLcheyya vuNarththaluR
REnE. (TVM
10.8.9)
There
was an interesting discussion between Bhattar and Nanjeer about this pasuram.
Azhwar says that today, Perumal has made him an entity in such a way that
Perumal has entered in to his body. Where as this was not the case until
yesterday. What is the justification for this?
Perumal: Azhweer, you have attained all the aspects that a soul needs to
attain by completely doing Atma samarpanam to me, and that is why I
have entered in to you. You are so special.
Without taking credit for himself, Azhwar replies with the following
statement:
That
again is purely because of your nirhEtuka krupai
For
this reply, Perumal could not answer any further and hence started to stand in a
postion where He was looking down and drawing cirlces with His feet. Perumal is
even a kind enough to do this nilam thuzhAval for bhaktA's sake. In this
context, Perumal could be considered as Krishna in child form as
NammAzhwar was completly immersed in "Krishna trishnA
tattvam".
On the
otherhand, in the case of Brahma he had to do nilam thuzhAval because
he could not protect himself. Finally, Perumal took Hayagrivar avatAram to get
back the vedas and protect Brahma. AlavandAr refers to three pathis, prajApathi
(Brahma), pasupathi (Rudran) and RamApathi (Perumal) when referring to
Brahma. When Perumal took TriVikrama avatAram, there were two water sources
that fell on Perumal's feet. One was from the kamadalam of Brahma and the other
was from MahApali. Rudran took the water that fell from Brahma lOkam on his head
to get himself purified, and hence got the name Shivan.
Swamy
PL also refers to the story where Brahma's head was plucked by Rudran. With all
the all the above instances it becomes very clear that even Brahma cannot
protect us from this samsara.
Let us
look into the case of Rudran in the next posting...
aDiyEn,
ramanan
Dear Ramanan, As of today mornign I have
forwarded three postings and 2 have already appeared in the groups. You
might have seen them.
I have reced. 6 postings with astonishing
frequency from you.
Thanks and regards
dAsan
vanamamalai padmanabhan
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:57
PM
Subject: RE: Prapanna ParithrANam
Please ignore my previous posting on indra... It should read as
pAlakanAi instead of nAyakanAi.. My apologies.
New posting 6..
Indran
Swamy PL's discussion on Indran's case is very
interesting. He starts with the following:
trilOkya pAlakanAi irundhu eppozhudhu nam padham
nazhuvappOgiratho endru anchi
sApathukku aatpattu...
Indran is the king of swarga loka, which is
third in hierarchy from bhoomandalam. Though he is the king
of all the devargal, he is always nervous not to loose his
position. He even gets into lowly acts to maintain his position.
There was a story of a king who succesfully completed a yAgam to get
indra padhavi. He used to do lot of dhAna dharma in his kingdom. When
he went to the swarga loka, Indra somehow wanted to prevent him from
adorning the throne. When the king answered indra's question on
who was the great dharmasali in the king's rajyam, the latter had to
reply that it was the king him. Indra immdietly quoted the king as
self-boasting soul and pushed him down back to the
bhoolokam.
Once, Durvasar had the garland prasadam of Sridevi
nAchiyAr. He saw indra on the way, and gifted it to him. Without showing any
respect for that, indra put that on his elephant. Unknown of
the vaibhavam of the prasadam, the elephant put the garland down and stepped
on it. Sage Durvasar immediately cursed indra to loose all the wealth.
In other instance, indra got cursed by sage Gautama for misbehaviour
with his wife. That time indra got 1000 eyea all on his
body.
indrajit kaiyil
agappattu..
Indrajit, the son of Ravana had once defeated
indran. That instance is also quoted by PL.
MahAbali pOlvar idathil Iswaryam
parikoduthu kannum kanneer kondu kazhuthum
kappadaiyumAi...
Mahabali performed yAgam to get indra padhavi. At
the time when he was about to finish it succesfully, indran was horrified
and eventually went and fell at the feet of Perumal. kappadai here refers to
the torn cloth. A wealthy person, when he becomes poor, will always feel
ashamed of showing his poor status to the external world, and hence will try
to hide the torn cloth on his body. NammAzhwar refers to this state of a
person in one of his pasurams when describing the state of a person who will
get protected by Perumal. EmPerumAnAr has dedicated this pasuram for
ThirunArAyanapuram:
orunNaa yagamaay Oda,vulaguda
Nnaandavar, karunNaay kavarntha kaalar sidhaigiya
paanaiyar, perunNaadu kaaNa immaiyilEpichchai
thaamkoLvar, thirunNaaraNan_thaaL kaalam peRachchindhith thuymminO (TVM
4.1.1)
This kind of person will not even be able to
recognize the dog lying on the road, as it would be dark when he comes out
of his place.
The fourth instance is about Govardana malai.
People used to offer food to indra, but with the command of Krishna they
stopped it once and offered it to the hill itself. That was consumed
completely by Krishna. He himself is the hill, dam and everything as qutoed
in sAstras. Krishna specifically did this act to show the people that indra
is not a nitya (eternal) entity.
Let us look into the case of Brahma and others in
the follwoing postings.
aDiyEn,
ramanan
Dear Ramanan,
Very Good start .Go ahead
please.
I have slightly made some cosmetic
changes in the message. Please convert this into suitable colours and
fonts. Try to give the pAsuram nos. whenever we quote from aruLich cheyal
.A suitable heding would be wonderful.
I am forwarding it to ramanuja
and vanamamalai groups.
Why not oppiliappan groups
also?
dAsan
'vanamamalai
padmanabhan
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