SrI: Pranams: Though adiyen is not qualified to say any thing about the recitation in a sampradayic way / poorvaachaarya murai of Nalayira Divya prabhandam, takes objection to the following statement by the writer. Quote: "With due respect to fellow srivaishnavas from DhEsika Sampradhaayam, there is no Aachaarya swami to authentically teach Arulichcheyal as per ?Poorvaachaarya MuRai? .Its a Big apology, when a Arulichcheyal ghOshti of the said group comes along during Swami.DhEsikar Purappaadu.I do not consider myself qualified to argue about the rendition by the said group, but having myself learnt "Sandhai" from a respected Scholar, its nothing to write home about.I atleast cannot differentiate between Thiruvaaimozhi, Naanmukan Thiruvandhaadhi, thiruppaavai, Nootrandhaadhi and "Sree Sthuthi" or ?Bhgavath dhyaana Shobaanam , when rendered by the said group. " Unquote: The writer says that he is sorry to hurt the feelings of others. It makes one to feel that some set of people only can recite in a proper way and not by people who follow Desika sampradayam. The writer should not have brought in to picture about Srivaishnavas from DhEsika Sampradhaayam. Adiyen apologizes for any misunderstanding Dasan Srinivasan > --- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "R.Vaasu" <vaasur@xxxx> wrote: > > AdiyEn Dhaasan. > > Sri.Padhmanaabhan swami's observation with regards to ghOshti in Srirangam > is sadly true.He has touched a raw nerve, and I cant hold myself back from > writing this response. > > What is witnessed is attributable to the following reasons.I wish I am > wrong. > > My apologies are unconditionally rendered, should what ensue hurt anybody's > feelings. > > 1.Back in / till late seventies, Dhivya Prabhandham was taught in Srirangam > by Thridhandi Sriman Naaraayana jeeyar swami(varthamaana swamiyin > thiruppaattanaar) paatasaalai in west Uthra street.AdiyEn was one of the > beneficiaries, and adiyEn learnt upto 3000 paasurams.But, after the sad > demise of that Swami, the matam was moved ,presumably to Andhrapradesh(AP)and > many of the Swamis who learnt and taught Arulich cheyal there, moved to AP > and other places.All of a sudden, an institution which was solely catering to > this need of the Srivaishnava community, shut shop.This created a void. > > 2.Kuvalakudi Singamaiyyangar paatasaalai, or Ku.Ci.paatasaalai, as it > was(is) known, created numerous "adhyaabhagaas" for Arulichcheyal GhOshti, > who shone by their rendition of AruLich cheyal, not only in Srirangam but > also in various DhivyadEsams.,like in Tiruppathi,thiru Naaraayana > puram.ThiruvallikkEni, etc.Besides AruLichcheyal, all the 4 vEdhaas, and > Paancharaathra Agama were taught there.Almost all the current crop of Senior > Bhattaachaaryas in Srirangam Temple are beneficiaries.This Paatasaalai now > has very few inmates (the current trustee is Sri.? Seemi Kesavan Iyengar?- > please correct me if I am wrong ? the reason may be lack of finance / > supervision of funds distribution.( I myself have seen atleast 5 persons from > this Paatasaalai , in Thirunaaraayanapuram and in another temple in Bombay in > Panaswadi,(run by Gujarathi Srivaishnavaas, -near Thakurdhwar, 5 minutes car > drive from Charniroad station in Mumbai - Thennaachaarya sampradhaayam, > Paancharaathra Aagamam)) > > These Paatasaalais were run, by private contributions from, may be > trusts,run by Sri.Jeeyar, and if I am not mistaken, by KuCi trust.(I am not > sure, but I believe "yezhuththaaLar" "Sujaatha"sri.Rangarajan belongs to this > lineage). > > 3.Other individual Swamis,like ?Kutti Rangarajan? (Of Thirumalai > Ananthaanpillai Thiruvamsam) Annan Swami from Annanthirumaalikai,Sri.Raama > iyengar ? Srirangam vaanamaamalai matam) Sri.Bhashyam Iyengar Swami > ?Sri.Srinivasan /Sri.Sampath of Thirumalai Ananthaanpillai Thiruvamsam again, > are contributing in their available time, out of their own volition. > > 4.Araiyar Swami,Vaikuntavaasi Sri.Nadhamuni swami was also a big > contributory to this system,sadly he is no more there. > > 5.The laukeeka compulsions/ invasion of computers -read internet - and > TV Sorry-als/One day cricket telecast from all over the > world(Sri.Jagan swami from Annan thirumaalikai is a great bowler and an > opening batsman) are also factors which prevent young school children from > going to places like Vaanamaamalai matam/Mudhaliyaandaan thirumaalikai etc > where "sandhai"classes take place. > > Because of all these factors put together there is no/lack of an authentic > school to teach proper "Sandhai" in Srirangam. > > With due respect to fellow srivaishnavas from DhEsika Sampradhaayam, there > is no Aachaarya swami to authentically teach Arulichcheyal as per > ?Poorvaachaarya MuRai? .Its a Big apology, when a Arulichcheyal ghOshti of > the said group comes along during Swami.DhEsikar Purappaadu.I do not consider > myself qualified to argue about the rendition by the said group, but having > myself learnt "Sandhai" from a respected Scholar, its nothing to write home > about.I atleast cannot differentiate between Thiruvaaimozhi, Naanmukan > Thiruvandhaadhi, thiruppaavai, Nootrandhaadhi and "Sree Sthuthi" or ?Bhgavath > dhyaana Shobaanam , when rendered by the said group. > > Again, nothing has been done to point this out / correct. > > During the 4 Uthsavams for NamperumaaL, (Bhoopathi thirunaaL in the month > of Thai, TheppOrchavam in Maasi,Pankunith thirunaaL in Pankuni & Viruppan > thirunaaL in Chiththirai), but for the Swamis from AnnanThirumaaLikai, > Bhattar ThirumaaLikai,Nampillai ThirumaaLikai and other Swayamaacharya > ThirumaaLikais ?mentioned in point3 above-, who count upto a maximum of 10, > others are drawn from volunteers, who have learnt from outside.The irony is, > these Swamis make a compromise with what(who) is available and thus, with the > available thennaachaarya vaishnavaas,(the contributions from Poorvasika > srivaishnavaas from ThiruveLLaRai ,especially the sishyakOdis of > mElaththirumaalikai swami in this are yeoman) the GhOshti is continued.This > also encourage more persons to learn and join the ghOshti. > > As Sri.Vinod has observed elsewhere in the digest, we all can make these > institutions come alive again.There are many volunteers in Srirangam > available.We can make some contributions to these trusts through > Sri.vElukkudi swami or other elders. > > The objective / purport of this mail is to evince an interest to revive the > ?Paatasaalai tradition in Srirangam and at the same time to elicit a response > from interested members of this informed Group. > > So,I humbly request / invite Padhmanabhan Swami to contribute to the > "improvement" of "AruLich cheyal" ghOshti in Srirangam by making himself > available alongwith other Thennaachaarya sampradhaayakaas atleast during the > 4 Uthsavams and make it suitable for the Nammaazhwar's words. > > "Polika! Polika"..... > > Naalaayirap poruLaam NamperumaaL ThiruvadikalE saranam. > > NaayanthE, > > Dhaasan, > Vaasu. > > > . >>>>>>>>>>>Let us come to today's parlance. What is great in > Thriuvarangam - The nadai azhagu of Nam PerumAL , the araiyar sEvai -the > quality of which is coming down day by day. What is great in ThiruvallikkEANi > -undoubtedly aruLich cheyal anubhavam. What is great in Kanchi - the aruLich > cheyal ghOshti -the VEAdha ghOsthi and the kudai azhagu. > > Nobody can deny this. One can have abimAnam but now for the sake of argument > one talks of aruLIch cheyal ghOshit in SriRangam - I am sorry - even the > nithyapadi ThiruppAvai in udayavar sannidhi is a great disappointment to one > and all. > > Therefore, let us enjoy the anubhavam-s which are unique to the > divya-dhEsam-s . > > 'paRRalar vEya kOl kaiyin kONdu pArthan than thEar mun ninRAnai ... > mugil vaNNan adi mEal sonna sol mAlai Ayirath-ippathum vallAr' > > dAsan > vanamamalai padmanabhan<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > --------------------------------- > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE > with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> AIDS in India: A "lurking bomb." Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/.itolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Azhvar EmberumAnAr JeeyAr ThiruvadigalE Saranam http://www.vedics.net Yahoo! 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