Swamin Thank you for this observation. The reference to involuntary support that a hand lends to a person to cling on to clothes etc was brought in only to emphasis that we must surrender to Lord Sriman Narayana consciously, sub consciously and even in the absence of consciousness. Until then our surrender is not complete. it is only to bring out the SOLE dependence of HIM that such acts were mentioned. If raising hands were sufficient then every commuter in the US would receive HIS grace. Being a commuter adiyen fully appreciates that it is not sufficient. No offense swamin. adiyen learning Thirupalliyeuchi and Thiruppavai from swamin and I am writing to you on this thread in private out of no vanity but seeking clarification on a finer point adiyen anandavalli dasan TCAV who posted the MMPADI series has followed up with a very nice article along these lines. --- Pattangi <danp@xxxx> wrote: > sri: > Dear Devotees: Accept adiyEn's humble pranam: > > There was a talk about what is the one factor that > saves > Draupadi at her time of distress, > Which one act: Holding hands, prapatti, putting her > hands in the air etc, > > Our Purvacharyas have blessed us with all these > answers > (Every question we ask now has already been asked > and > fully explained by our Purvacharyas) > > Sri Swami Pillai Lockacharyan, also knows as > LokaDesikan, has > mentioned this in Mumukshuppadi, > > 16: draupadikku AbaththilE pudavai suranthathu > thirunAmamiRE. > > Sri TCA Venkatesan has translated this > 16. draupadikku AbaththilE pudavai suranthathu > thirunAmamiRE. > > http://www.acharya.org/vyakyanam/mumukshuppadi/mmp016.html > > If the Govinda nAma, which is Narayana nAma > associated with one place, > can do so much, then does one have to explain > further the greatness of the Narayana nAma. > > She says "sanka chakra gadApANe! dvAraka > nilayAcyuta! gOvinda! > puNdareekAksha! raksha mAm sharaNAgatam" > > More than anything else, its HIS Grace that saves us > all the time. > (But since this grace is there all the time for > devotees, we tend to overlook his Grace) > > It is like saying the plant grows because "i" > watered it, > (But Sunlight, the KEY Element is always there, > like Perumal's grace) > > So if perumal's grace is there all the time, what is > our "jivatma's role"? > > Our role is not to block his grace (NOT to turn away > from HIM) > Achit Sambhandam takes us away from HIM, Iswara > Sambhandam takes us closer to him. > > > > azhwAr emperumAnAr JeeyAr thiruvadigalE sharanam > > adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan > Mukundan Vangkipuram Pattangi > http://www.radioramanuja.com > > Join Ramanuja Group: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Oppiliappan-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com
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