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Dear Swamin,

I apologize if I did not convey my thoughts clearly. What I had 
mentioned was that Sri AndAl and Sri rAmAnujar are definitely a step 
ahead than Bhumi Prattiyaar and Adi Seshan.

adiyEn
rAmAnuja dAsan

--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, senthil b <b_senthil2002@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Dear Lakshmi Narasimhan Swamin:
> 
> As you mentioned in mail, the reverse i.e., comparing
> BhU dEvi and Seshan with SrI Andal, Ramanujar in terms
> of bhagavat and bhaagavada abhimaanam is more than the
> latter.
> 
> BhU dEvi after lifted by Sri VarAha moorthy, she asked
> the way for the uj~eevanam of jeevAtmAs like us.
> VarAha
> moorthy explains the way through Varaha Carama Slokam
> which is explained in Varaha Puranam.
> (Rescue of BhU dEvi by emperumAn in Varaha avatAram
> proves her bhagavad abhimaanam)
> 
> Due to her bhaagavada abhimaanam, she took avatar
> as SrI Andal, and lead her life according to the
> Varaha Carama Slokam so that , the latter jeevAtmAs
> like us would attain the feet of Lord.!
> 
> Without Her kArunyam towards us, we wont get Thirup
> pAvai now. 
> 
> Similarly, sEshan is known for his service to Lord
> at Sri vaikuntam as mentioned by alwar:
> "senrAl kudaiyAm irunthAl singAsanamAm..."
>    -- muthal thiruvandhAdhi  (53)
> 
> He is doing kainkaryam to Lord in all forms. This
> proves his bhagavad abhimaanam. Similarly his birth
> as Srimad Ramanujar proves his bhaagavada abhimaanam.
> 
> If there's any mistake please forgive and comments
> ont this are welcome!
> 
> adiyEn,
> senthil.b
> 
> 
> --- Lakshmi Narasimhan <nrusimhann@...> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Swamin,
> > The answer lies in your question itself. I am just
> > swapping the 
> > sequence of information present in your question:
> > >From what i have learned from their life events, is
> > that both were 
> > very humble and never claimed to be anything other
> > than servants of 
> > the lord.  
> > 
> > > Now Sri Vaishnava sampradaya is 100% bonafide
> > according to 
> >  shrastras, i just wanted to know which shastras and
> > authority 
> >  provide us with the information that Sri Andal and
> > Sri Ramanuja are 
> >  Bhudevi avatara and Sesha avatara respectively.
> > 
> > Similar to Sri Kothai Naacchiyaar and Sri
> > Emperumaanaar, bhudevi as 
> > well as adiseshan are humble servants of the lord.
> > We must actually 
> > try proving whether Bhudevi and Sesha really have
> > capabilities that 
> > could be compared with the former in terms of
> > bhagavad and 
> > bhaagavada abhimaanam and priyam rather than
> > vice-versa.
> > 
> > adiyEn,
> > rAmAnuja dAsan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "tesh_tel"
> > <tesh_tel@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Srimathe Ramanujaya Namah
> > > 
> > > Dear devotees,
> > > Jai Sri Krishna.
> > > 
> > > I have one issue which i am keen to have some
> > knowledge about.  In 
> > > Our dharma Sri Bhagavan and his associates
> > periodicaly take form 
> > in 
> > > the material world for the uplift of Jivas.  One
> > unfortunate 
> > feature 
> > > of this beleif is that many wicked jivas take
> > advantage of this 
> > > belief and claim themselves as God, some examples
> > include King 
> > > Paundaraka in the Dwarapara Yuga (who claimed to
> > be the real 
> > > krishna) and Puttarpathi saibaba in this yuga.
> > > 
> > > Our shastras fortunalty provide validification of
> > The avatars so 
> > > that we cannot be fooled. As we know by reading
> > the shastras we 
> > have 
> > > no doubt that Sri Rama and Sri Krishna are the
> > Supreme lord 
> > himself. 
> > > Now Sri Vaishnava sampradaya is 100% bonafide
> > according to 
> > > shrastras, i just wanted to know which shastras
> > and authority 
> > > provide us with the information that Sri Andal and
> > Sri Ramanuja 
> > are 
> > > Bhudevi avatara and Sesha avatara respectively. 
> > From what i have 
> > > learned from their life events, is that both were
> > very humble and 
> > > never claimed to be anything other than servants
> > of the lord.  I 
> > > cannot recall a time when Sri Andal or Guru
> > Ramanuja displayed 
> > their 
> > > divine personalities. So how do we know of there
> > true identities???
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>               
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