Dear Madhavan swamy, My mails are exactly with the same intention. To me, use of a title in a slokam has nothing to do with the humility aspect of a person who has composed it. It is standard practise to do so and Swamy Desikan has been following it. Titles, places of birth, parents names are used by different poets alongwith their own names for the benefit of posterity, i.e. avoid confusion. Ofcourse, connoiusures can easily differentiate between compositions of poets simply based on style & flow - it is some kind of a signature. Sajjana padapadma parama renuhu Lakshmi Narasimha dasan narsimhan csl <cslnarsimhan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Swamy Desikan himself composed these phalasrutis. He proudly uses the title conferred on him by Lord himself- so nothing really unusual about it. He states such things not only in phalasruti but even in the middle of slokams. In fact, he says in dayasatakam, "vedanta desika pade viniveshya baalam", saying that he is in Vedanta desika position which is even better than" kavitharkika kesari". So I dont think anyone else have added phalasrutis, it is not normal to do it. It is swamy's composition Sajjana pada padma parama renuhu Lakshmi Narasimha dasan "Srikanth H.R." <hrsriks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Respected BhAgavatAs, Regarding the question whether Swami Desikan himself composed the phala sruti, I referred to a series of articles on this by revered Sri Anbil Ramaswamy in the Bhakti-list a couple of years back under the titles "Swami Desikan's NaichyAnu- sandhAnam and sAtvika ahankAram". In these posts it clearly mentions that Desikan himself composed these phala srutis out of sAtvika AhankAram. Sri Anbil Ramaswamy also mentions that ONLY SWAMI DESIKAN (and similar acharyas)is qualified to have such a feeling.!!! Regarding the other point whether these were composed later on, I request the learned members to enlighten. Swami Desikan Tiruvadigale saranam daasan, Srikanth --- Gopalan Raghavan <shriragh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear All, > > The verses in the sloka roughly translated > > "vaagartha siddhihetoH > paThata hayagriivasaMstutiM bhaktyaa . > > the Hayagriva stotram read with devotion would > help in attaining fluency over words and true > knowledge about the Truth. > > and > > kavitaarkika kesariNaa > veN^kaTanaathena virachitaametaam.h .. 33 .. > > that this stotra is composed by Venkatanatha, the > lion among the composers and those that excel in > debates > > As these words are found in the phalsruthi one can > assume that these are composed later. > > But one doubt still persists - that is whether Swami > Desikan would have himself stated - " lion among > the composers and those that excel in debates"? > > Possibly they could have been added subsequently by > Swami Desika's son and disciple, Nainacharya or > Kumara Varadacharya ? > > Because in his Desika Mangalam, Pillai Antaadi, and > Desika Dinacharyai he has recorded some > biographical details of his father..... > > Kavitarkika Simhaya Kalyana GunashalinE > Srimathe Venkateshaya Vedanta GuravE Namaha > > > Srimathi Venkatachari Raghavan > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SriRangaSri/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: SriRangaSri-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SriRangaSri/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: SriRangaSri-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/VkWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SriRangaSri/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: SriRangaSri-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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