Dear Swamin, I will be much thankful to you if anyone could point out to any English or Tamil version of a commentary or upanyasam, which gives the meanings of Brahmopadesam function (and the various mantras) on any type of media? I would like to request someone to conduct a discourse here prior to my son's Brahmopadesam (one day before) so that people could understand the relevance of the function and the procedures. 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Similarly a man feels the pleasures of prosperity because he has experienced adversity before, remembers it now and contrasts it with his present position. -- From Mahalakshmi Mahatmyam :: The Great Essentials on Prosperity ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:02:13 +0000 >From: Sudarshan K Madabushi <mksudarshan2002@xxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [SriRangaSri] Re: Upanayanam question. >X-Originating-IP: 168.187.0.35 >X-Sender: mksudarshan2002@xxxxxxxxxxx >To: SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster >Delivered-to: mailing list SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Mailing-List: list SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; contact > SriRangaSri-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email >X-Apparently-To: SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.50 >X-Yahoo-Profile: mksudarshan2002 >X-eGroups-Edited-By: ramanbil <Ramanbil@xxxxxxxxxxx> >X-eGroups-Approved-By: ramanbil <Ramanbil@xxxxxxxxxxx> via web; 03 Feb 2005 > 00:44:26 -0000 >X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.94.237.37 >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:SriRangaSri-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 > > > >Dear Bhagabatas: >The Saastras prescribe that Upanayanam should be performed at >"GarbhaashTamam". That is at 7 years of age (including Garbha vaasam, it >will be 8 years). > >In the case of Brahmins, it can be done upto 16 years at the latest. For >other two in the Traivarnikas (Kshatriyas and Vaisyas) there is some >relaxation in the upper age limit. > >There is, however, no prohibition like odd years and even years etc. for >performing Upanayanam. > >In any event, the earlier, the better. > > >This is the position that I have been told in the "anushTaanam classes" in >India. >Hope this helps. >Dasoham >Anbil Ramaswamy >======================================================================= >--- In SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Vijay & Lalitha Venbakkam" ><vijaylalli@xxxx> wrote: > > I'd. like to find out if there's an appropriate age for performing >Upanayanam & Brahmopadesam, for Srivaishnava brahmachari's. Kindly >advise. I have heard the term "ottrai padai" (meaning only >during 'odd' years) mention by some friends and I wanted to clarify >if that's applicable for Srivaishnavas also. > > *************** > >Dear member, > >Many years ago I had the same question in respect of performing my >son's 'upanayanam'. I consulted the revered U.Ve. Sri Mukkur >Lakshminarasimhachariar and I still vividly remember his simple but >logical advice: > >(1) The child should be old enough so as to be able to articulate >clearly and repeat the 'gAyatri mantra' as it is ceremoniously >uttered into his ear i.e. the child should have overcome lisping. > >(2) The child should also be so young that it is evident even >incipient feelings of 'kAma' (i.e. the dawning of sexual awareness) >have not yet taken seed inside his tender mind. > >Some boys do have a child's lisp ("mazhallai", in Tamil) even upto >the age of 7 or 8. It is better to wait a while for him to outgrow >the physical condition before performing "upanayanam". Some boys >however, even at the age of 5 speak clearly. It's better >the "upananayam" is performed at the earliest in such a case. > >In any case, however, the "upanayanam" should be performed well >before the dawning of sexual awareness... whatever be the age. In the >modern age, the very environment in which we live (movies, TV shows, >books, magazines, billboards etc.) arouses vague sexual curiousity, >even if not real awareness, amongst boys at a very tender age even. >This is rather unfortunate indeed, but we can do little about it. >Hence, it is all the more urgent that the "upanayanam" ceremony must >be performed as early as possible in order to heed the 'sAstra' that >says the 'gAyatri' must enter into a child's mind well before 'kAmA' >takes root there. > >I performed my son's 'upanayanam' when he was 11 years of age. > >Hope my own experience is of some use to you. > >Thanks and regards, > >dAsan, >Sudarshan > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! 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