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Dear Swamin,

I will be much thankful to you if anyone could point out to any English or 
Tamil version of a commentary or upanyasam, which gives the meanings of 
Brahmopadesam function (and the various mantras) on any type of media?  I 
would like to request someone to conduct a discourse here prior to my son's 
Brahmopadesam (one day before) so that people could understand the 
relevance of the function and the procedures.  That way I could learn also!;-)

Lakshminarasimhan


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>Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:02:13 +0000
>From: Sudarshan K Madabushi <mksudarshan2002@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [SriRangaSri] Re: Upanayanam question.
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>Dear Bhagabatas:
>The Saastras prescribe that Upanayanam should be performed at 
>"GarbhaashTamam". That is at 7 years of age (including Garbha vaasam, it 
>will be 8 years).
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>In the case of Brahmins, it can be done upto 16 years at the latest. For 
>other two in the Traivarnikas (Kshatriyas and Vaisyas) there is some 
>relaxation in the upper age limit.
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>There is, however, no prohibition like odd years and even years etc. for 
>performing Upanayanam.
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>In any event, the earlier, the better.
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>This is the position that I have been told in the "anushTaanam classes" in 
>India.
>Hope this helps.
>Dasoham
>Anbil Ramaswamy
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>--- In SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Vijay & Lalitha Venbakkam"
><vijaylalli@xxxx> wrote:
> > I'd. like to find out if there's an appropriate age for performing
>Upanayanam & Brahmopadesam, for Srivaishnava brahmachari's.  Kindly
>advise.  I have heard the term "ottrai padai" (meaning only
>during 'odd' years) mention by some friends and I wanted to clarify
>if that's applicable for Srivaishnavas also.
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>Dear member,
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>Many years ago I had the same question in respect of performing my
>son's 'upanayanam'. I consulted the revered U.Ve. Sri Mukkur
>Lakshminarasimhachariar and I still vividly remember his simple but
>logical advice:
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>(1) The child should be old enough so as to be able to articulate
>clearly and repeat the 'gAyatri mantra' as it is ceremoniously
>uttered into his ear i.e. the child should have overcome lisping.
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>(2) The child should also be so young that it is evident even
>incipient feelings of 'kAma' (i.e. the dawning of sexual awareness)
>have not yet taken seed inside his tender mind.
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>Some boys do have a child's lisp ("mazhallai", in Tamil) even upto
>the age of 7 or 8. It is better to wait a while for him to outgrow
>the physical condition before performing "upanayanam". Some boys
>however, even at the age of 5 speak clearly. It's better
>the "upananayam" is performed at the earliest in such a case.
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>In any case, however, the "upanayanam" should be performed well
>before the dawning of sexual awareness... whatever be the age. In the
>modern age, the very environment in which we live (movies, TV shows,
>books, magazines, billboards etc.) arouses vague sexual curiousity,
>even if not real awareness, amongst boys at a very tender age even.
>This is rather unfortunate indeed, but we can do little about it.
>Hence, it is all the more urgent that the "upanayanam" ceremony must
>be performed as early as possible in order to heed the 'sAstra' that
>says the 'gAyatri' must enter into a child's mind well before 'kAmA'
>takes root there.
>
>I performed my son's 'upanayanam' when he was 11 years of age.
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>Hope my own experience is of some use to you.
>
>Thanks and regards,
>
>dAsan,
>Sudarshan
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