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>I remember that somebody wrote on "amaraprabhu" and "maraprabhu" 
>story in some of the lists.

>Is it not just enough to meditate on the acharya/alvar or the Lord 
>Himself when a name or its equivalent is heard?

The Alwars and so do the nayanmArs use the purest of Tamizh. Tamizh
is not antithetical to Sanskrit. Britan already tried to divide and
conquer on the basis of language. Unfortunately for the British and
other christian academics, the Indians did not use a single weapon to
drive away Britannia.

Apart from political and historical wranglings, Nammazhwar among the
alwars, Thirumoolar among the nayanmArs and Mannickavasagar in the
pannirandAm thirumurai have clearly established the sacred status of
Samskrutam or the perfected tongue.

Coming back to your question, no it is not completely enough to
meditate on the Acharya or the Alwar or the LORD himself when a name
is heard. One SHOULD understand what that word means. One has been
blessed with intellect by Lord Hayagriiva himself. Even if it takes
time to learn, it is always good. Adhyaya(learning) should always be
an eternal process, so declare the vedas themselves.

>Or is it nice to concentrate only on the name and its mis-spelling 
>and expose your erudition and hidden ego. If you want to do so, it
>is upto you. If you are hurt with this, then think of those who were

>hurt by your posting.

>Apart from these, if a "bhagavata" was hurt in this way, is this not

>a great mistake or as you would like to call it "Bhagavata
>apacharam"?

There are certain rules for who is bhagavata and who is not. A
Bhagavata is not some one who merely worships god. One is a Sri
Vaishnava not by the dint of birth, but only after pancha-samskAram.

After pancha-samskAram one has to understand what bhara-nyAsam means
and follow it as per the angA-s. If one does this, then only that one
can be considered a "bhagavata". 

A Bhagavata is certainly not one who has not completely understood
these beliefs.

And, while in jAlpa (which is a type of an arguement), one is subject
to nyAya and tarka (rigorous mathematical formalism and logic). One
has to understand the Sri Sooktham-s and the prasthAna-trayam and the
entire corpus of the hindu canon on basis of nyAyam and tarkam.

Also in addition to the nyAyam and tarkam, one has to use extensively
the Niruktam which contains etymology.

There is however exception to who is a bhagavata. I qoute one of my
mentors at this point:

http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/jul98/0044.html

I hope i have made myself clear in this matter. I encourage further
discussion with the acceptance of the moderator on in private
otherwise. I would however take time to reply since my college is
starting on monday.

nama: sarva RNa vimocanAya nArAyaNAya,
(Oh Sriman-nArayana, I beseech you to clear the debts of all!)

Regards,

Malolan Cadambi
Austin,TX

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