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Dear Bhagavatas:
Enough has been said on the subject.
May we close further inputs on the subject in the Journal and move on?
Thanks for your understanding.
Dasoham
Anbil Ramaswamy
===============================================================
Well said Shri. Narayanan.  The fault is on all sides;
we should have just one side which follows the path of
Bhagavath Ramanuja. Adiyen was also stopped like this
for reciting slected pasuram from prabhandham; (it
doesnt matter to which Kalai I belong)  This was a not
a ghosti, I was reciting by myself and that too in a
low voice. I accepted it, because it happened in front
of the Lord; I prayed to Lord Narayana and Lokamatha 
who are always listening to us for a  better tomorrow.
 

Tomorrow is always a ray of hope.

Dasan 
Aravamudhan   


--- Narayanan Veeraraghavan <narayankv@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan,
> 
> Adiyen does not have any qualifications to write
> about
> anything but the incident that our respected Sri
> Srinath had witnessed has been happenning for a very
> long time. Adiyen has also witnessed and personally
> experienced such humiliation in Thiruvallikkeni
> while
> I was just giving a humming sound of reciting
> "Siriya
> Thirumadal" during Thaayar purappadu on Friday. 
> 
> The dwesham as one of the learned member mentioned
> is
> not because of the philosophical differences but
> purely because of the enimies in one's own self
> namely
> "Krodham", "madham", "maathsaryam". 
> 
> We are living in a so called Sri Vsishnava group
> (sorry to mention it as "so called". But it is our
> fate that we cannot call our ghoshti as Sri
> Vaishnava
> ghoshti as we dont respect another Sri Vaishnava).
> We
> are living in a group of people where merely due to
> ones physical appearance people go to the extent of
> changing the thiruman that was originally on
> Perumal's
> thirunetri (meaning literally carving out the lower
> portion of thiruman). Being a person from vadakalai
> sect., I heard many people saying this. This had
> happened in Kancheepuram at adiyen's favourite
> perumal's temple. Same way there are many such
> incidents told to adiyen by vadakalai sect of people
> too. We cannot find out who is true because everyone
> is mentioning incidents that suits their side. Its
> not
> fair to talk who is right and who is wrong rather
> forget all these and just pray emperumaan and
> nothing
> else can be done to save our sampradaayam. 
> 
> Earlier we worried that there was one Malik Kafur
> who
> troubled our Sri Vaishnava Sri which is
> thriuvarangam
> but now we have many Malik Kafurs within ourselves
> that we should protect our sampradayam fromt hem so
> that one more invasion doesn't happen. We should be
> worried that there should be no other emperumaanaar
> born again just to re-establish the already existing
> Visishtaadvaitham and Sri Vaishnavism. If this
> happpens then we wont be able to forgive ourselves
> and
> we cannot stand in front of perumal when we all see
> him at Sri Vaikuntam. We wont be qualifed to be by
> the
> side of our emperumaanaar at Sri Vaikuntam to do
> eternal service to lord. 
> 
> We need to always remember that we are now bold
> enough
> to commit all these apachaarams for the only reason
> that nammperumaal has granted moksham to everyone
> who
> has emperumaanaar sambandham and we say "Adiyen
> Ramanuja Dasan" and still commit apachaarams. But
> what
> if our emperumaanar gets worried that being born in
> his lineage we are committing such apachaarams? Can
> we
> bear such a situation ? If we think of our beloved
> emperumaanaar for just a moment and his
> mahopakaaram,
> I am sure all of our eyes will be in tears. If
> emperumaanaar himself gets unsatisfied then how
> canwe
> expect emperumaan to grant us Sri Vaikuntam ? This
> is
> what we forget. Emperumaan says the only apachaaram
> that will nullify parapatti is doing an apachaaram
> to
> any living being in this world and that too typicaly
> if one takes the name of our sweet lord we cannot
> even
> think of ill treating that bhagavatha even in our
> dreams. Now lets think ourselves that do we really
> want our prapatti nullified ? The answer should be
> within everyone's mind. 
> 
> 
> We need to have some of our poorvaachaaryas amongst
> us
> to answer these queries. As one of our learned
> member
> says even if those mahaanubhaavaas come directly
> they
> will be separated as a separate ghoshti and people
> will ill treat them. This is why after emperumaanaar
> ,
> swamy desikan and swamy maamunigal none incarnated
> as
> jagadhaachaaryaas (I mean as equal to them). Of
> course
> there can be only one jagadhaachaarya who is Swamy
> emperumaanaar. Even swamy emperumaanaar at Sri
> Preumboodhoor had to undergo lots of trouble in
> establishing himself in his original form inside the
> temple. 
> 
> We can only think of all these and pray emperumaan
> and
> nothing else. Even if a sect of few people try and
> start reforming this the current group of so called
> Sri Vaishnavas are so strong that they wont allow
> this
> to ever happen. Still there are so many good hearted
> and learned scholars in both kalais who are fighting
> for this reformity but we can only see that there is
> no respect paid to these mahaanubhaavaas at all and
> hence it has come to a state that some of them dont
> even go to temple because of this controversy. 
> 
> Adiyen wonder how people get time or all these
> trivial
> matters back home or adiyen think probably that they
> have made this as their vruthi (Job) to run their
> daily life. But let us not be very severe on these
> sri
> vaishnavas that they will get punished by
> emperumaan.
> We if we think we can be a true Sri Vaishnava we can
> pray to emperumaan that "Adiyomodum ninnodum
> pirivindri aayiram pallanndu". Lets include them.
> They
> are not to be ignored but corrected (by emperumaan
> himself) so that they also enjoy the anubhavams of
> our
> great poorvaachaaryaas on ermperumaan.
> 
> Adiyen just thought of putting adiyen's views. I
> know
> adiyen is going to get my inbox piled with so many
> emails in the next few minutes or hours against many
> of adiyen's lines as this is the trend happenning in
> most of the E-Groups. 
> 
> (unfortunately Sri Vaishnava unity is also not there
> in such egroups too. I am being very frank in
> telling
> this because I have been a member of so many groups
> but adiyen has seen so many arguments and unwanted
> discussion about many trivial matters and also
> regadrig the same issue oif vadakalai and thenkalai.
> stopped reading all those unless if they talk about
> bhagavath vishayam or bhagavatha vishayam. )
> 
> 
> Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan
> 
> 
> 
> 


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