Dear Sir, Thanks very much for your explanation. Sri Krishnam Vande Jagadgurum Sampige Srinivasa Iyengar >From: tatachar@xxxxxxx >To: sampiges@xxxxxxxxxxx, Srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, >parakalamatham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] Guna Karma vibhAgaShaha...??? >Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 16:08:46 -0500 > >Sir, > > > Is Krishna telling that >Varna or Caste is not by birth but by Guna/Karma(Character/Work)?< > >"Guna" here is one's natural/inherent inclinations (traits or nature); >in modern terms referred to as "aptitude". >It is a fundamental biological truth, rightly recognized (only) by >Sanatana Dharma and >wrongly interpreted down the road (by both learned and the common folks). > > "Karma" here is work (that is intended to be in conformity with Guna to >bring out the best: >As per GitA- svE svE karmaNyabhiratah sam siddhim labatE narah). > >Karma is influenced by the surroundings and upbringing (nurture). >This is what happened to a large extent in the Hindu society. >Irrespective of the inherent varNa of a child, Karma of a presumed varNa >(presumed based on one's ancestors, which was also presumptious) > was imposed on the child. Not only that, while >God/Nature created 4 varNAs, we created the avarNeeya (Panchamaas!). >This itself shows taht majority of us did not understand varNa. >How can anyone be born and be branded as not belong to any varNa? >I can imagine belonging to many varNas (mulrtiple traits)- however >no trait? > >Everyone of us is in short a combination of Natur and Nurture. >For example an artist obviously is influenced by the surroundings. >A person with scholarly traits in Karnataka will most probably >communicate his scholarship in Kannada, Sanskrit, Tamil , English, or >Telugu. >Rarely woul dthat person write in Swaheli or Bengali. > >Actually, Varna is determined by birth (nature)and influenced by >surroundings or upbringing (nurture). >However, MOST IMPORTANT TO NOTE is that it is not completely >determined by who one is born to. Thus, if someone has >4 children, they may as well belong to 4 different varNAs. >However, often they all can be groomed more or less to >one varNa (as has happened in our society). > >dAsan > >K.S. tAtAchAr > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sampige Srinivasa <sampiges@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: Srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; parakalamatham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:34:55 +0000 >Subject: [SriRangaSri] Guna Karma vibhAgaShaha...??? > > >Pranamams to all, > >I think this question may have been asked by many earlier. Please pardon me >if this is a repeated one. > >In Bhagavad Geetha, Sri Krishna says "Chaturvarnyam Maya Shrushtyam Guna >Karma VibhAgashaha" > >Can anyone please give the meaning of this Shloka. Is Krishna telling that >Varna or Caste is not by birth but by Guna/Karma(Character/Work)? What is >Shri. Ramanuja's Bhashya on this. It would be great if any one gives the >link to Sri. Ramanuja's Geetha Bhashyam translated to English. > >Shri Krishnam Vande Jagadgurum >Sampige Srinivasa Iyengar >Bengaluru > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/VkWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SriRangaSri/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: SriRangaSri-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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