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Dear Renganatha Bhakthas,

Some other views of scholars on the period of the Azhwaars.
Dates of Alwars:

Dr S Ramanathan - Divyaprabnadha Pannisai - Pathippurai:

The period of the alwars has been concluded by researchers as some time between 7th and ninth cenuries A D.

Mu Ragavaiyangar - Azhvarkal Kalanilai - page 147.
All dates in A D.
Poigai, Bootham and Peyalvar - 460-540
Mazhisai  - 520-620
Peerialvar - 700-785
Thirumangai -710-790
Andal - 716-782
Thondaradippodi - 740-800
Madurakavi - 740-805
Kulasekaran- 750-780
Thiruppanalwar - 750-800
Nammazhwar - 765-800

Dr Kamalakkannan - "Thondai Nadum vainavamum"

The period of the alvars was definitely after the sixth century.



--- On Sun, 12/28/08, Dr.V.Sadagopan <yennappan@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Dr.V.Sadagopan <yennappan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [SriRangaSri] The stories of the Azhwars ( Guru Parampara ) and their Dates
To: "SRS" <Srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "T.G Ramamurthi" <tgramu@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 3:56 AM

 
Dear All :
 
Quite often questions come up about AzhwAr's
times based on Guru Parampara and modern day
research . Here are soem inputs . Please feel
free to comment . I have also added the dates of
our AchAryans starting from Swamy Naathamuni to
Swamy Desikana nd MaNavALa MaamunihaL for
easy referecne .   
 
1. Pinbhazhagiya Jeeyar 's Guru Parampara
( First chronicle on AzhwAr's dhivya charitams)
 belongs to the time of 11th to 12th century .
He was a sishyar of NampiLLai.
He was also a contemproary of PeriyavAcchAn
PiLLai and Vadakku Thiruveethi PiLLai .
 
2. Azhwar's times will vary for SampradhAyic to
modern Historical views . The 500 years ranging 
from 5th to 10th century A,D is the view of 
modern day scholars . Sampradhayic view 
places them from 4202 B.C ( Mudhal Azhwars 
to Thirumazhisai ) , Madhura Kavi ( 3224 B.C) ,
NammAzhwAr ( 3102 B.C) ,
Kulasekharar ( 3075 B.C) , PeriyAzhwAr ( 3056 B.C) ,
Andal ( 3005 B.C) , Thondaradippodi ( 2814 B.C) ,
ThiruppANar ( 2760 B.C) and Thirumangai ( 2714 B.C). 
 
I am more comfortable with the 5th to 10th century 
A.D dates based on the clues in PeriyAzhwAr and
Thirumangai Paasurams and stone inscriptions
in the Temples about rulers  of Tamil Naadu . 
 
3. Acharya Paramparai :
Sriman Narayanan , Mahaa Lakshmi , VishvaksEnar 
 
Swamy NammAzwAr ( born B.C 3102 )
 
Swamy Naatha Muni ( 824-924 A.D)
with sishyas of UyyakkoNDAr (826-931)
and MaNakkAl Nambi ( 832-937 A.D )
 
Swamy AlavantAr( 916-1041 A.D)
Thirumalai Nambi ( 973-1073 A.D)
 
Acharya RaamAnuja ( 1017-1137 A.D )
Kuresar ( 1010-1116 A.D)
Embar ( 1026-1131A.D )
Kidambi AacchAn ( 1057-1157 A.D)
Thirukkuruhai PirAn PiLLAn ( Son of
Thirumalai Nambi , 11th century A.D, Kali 4134)
 
Swamy ParAsara Battar ( Born 1074 A.D)
Namjeeyar ( 11th-12th Century A.D)
NampiLLai  (          "                          )
PeriyavaacchAn PiLLai ( Born 1159 A.D)
Vadakku Thiruveethi PiLLai ( 12th century )
Nadathur AaLvAn ( 10th-11th Century A.D)
YengaL AzhwAn ( 1106-1206 A.D)
NadathUr AmmAL ( 1165-1275 A.D)
Sudarsana Battar ( 13th to 14th century)
AtrEya RaamAnujar ( 13th to 14th Century )
Swamy Desikan ( 1268-1369 A.D)
Swamy PiLLai LokaacchAr ( 1205-1326 A.D)
Kumara Varadachaar ( 1316-1401 A.D)
Brahma Tantra ParakAla Yati ( 1286-1386 A.D)
Swamy MaNavALa Maamuni (1370-1444 A.D)
PrativAdhi Bhayankaram ANNan ( 1300-1410 A.D)
Ranga RaamAnuja Muni ( 16th Century ). 
 
Additional details on the SamaasrayaNa and
Kaalkshepa Paramparais are available at
under Acharya paramparai .
 
Http://www,acahryas .org also has valuable information .
Detailed chronology of AchArya Raamanuja is at
 
The original 6000 padi is by Pinbhazhagiya Jeeyar Swamy
There are also 3000 and 6000 Padis on Guru Parampara
by two ParakAla Matam Jeeyars .  
 
Namo SrI Nrisimhaaya ,
V.Sadagopan  
 
   
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Srisathyanarayanap erumal_Mambalam] The stories of the Azhwars

Dear Shri Sadagopan

It is good to hear from you again. Your comments are usefull. I will go through the websites. So which century were the lives of the Azhwars first chronicled?
Regards
Pradeep



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