SrI: Dear Sri Venkat Interesting query: Sri Satakopar clarifies your query: This is not applicable for vaishnavas alone. In fact, it is aptly applied to all jeevathmas. [who believe in vedas] extract from thiruvaymozhi 4.10 1. When there were no dEvA, dEva kulam, human life, or any tatvam like mahat, - during that kaalam, Emperumaan started creating the world. The four-faced BrahmA, dEvAs, their lOkam and all other beings were all created by Him. Such Bhagawaan, my Emperumaan is standing most gracefully at Thirukkurugoor as Adhipiraan. When He stands in such archA form, why do you all search for other demi- Gods? Not at all called for. 2. Oh Guys! who live at various places in the world! (AzhwAr addresses us only across the net!). That Adhi Piraan has also created the God whom you love so much and worship (including you). He is filled entirely with greatest kalyANa guNAs and is faultless and blemishless. He stands most beautifully at Thirukurugoor. Please praise Him in good stOthrams, dancing and singing His glories and reach His Lotus Feet. 3. Emperumaan Sriman Narayanan only created all other demi Gods and all worlds in this universe. He is the One who swallowed the universe during the cosmic cycle and protected it. Later He brought it out by spitting the universe. He is the One who measured the universe in His one step. He is the One who brought the Mother Earth out and saved during His Varaaha avathaaram. Even after knowing all these greatest deeds of His, don't you all realize that He is the Paran? He is The One who stands at Thirukurugoor as Adhipiraan and is the one worshipped by dEvAs. Oh Guys of different places! There is No Other God that does not have This Paran Adhipiraan as the antharyaami in them; If there is one, come on, come and talk to me; I will explain to you and clarify your doubts: ( I do not tell; AzhwAr says this point blank.) All (demi)Gods are His sarIram only; 4. That Bhagawaan, Sriman Narayanan alone is the Chief of BrahmA and Sivan and all other dEvAs. Sriman Narayanan removed the head (of BrahmA) that got stuck with Sivan's hand. With this, get to know that He alone is the Chief; There is no use of talking uselessly trying to establish His Parathvam of Thriukkurugoor AdhiPiraan to people who believe in only guesswork. 5. Oh Guys! who talk about different PuraaNas! The samaNargaL, (Jains), Buddhists, your demi Gods, and in you, in every being, He, Emperumaan stays as antharyaami. He is the same one who stands most gracefully at Thirukurugoor as Adhi Piraan. He is the Adhi Naathan. There is not an iota of lie in all my statements. Hence, Please pray to Him ONLY and get saved. 6. There is also a reason for your getting confused and praying to other demi Gods. It is your karma palan. It is due to your past action and you have to pay respects to the actions arising out of your own past actions (in previous births). If everyone comes to know His Parathvam and gets saved then He will have no one to play His leelAs; Realize that and get saved by taking refuge at His Feet of Thirugurugoor AdhiPiraan. He stands majestically there; He is the Chief. Hence, look for a way to get saved faster! 7. When there is Sriman Narayanan stands gere so gracefully, you all are approaching other deities and hence have taken so many births. At least after realizing this, become a servant of ADHINAATHAN. Get enslaved by Him, who is worshipped even by dEvAs and is standing at Thirukurugoor. 8. When MarkaNedEyan approached Sivan, He saved MarkaNdEyan. It was possible for Sivan, since Emperumaan showerd His grace on Sivan. When Such Emperumaan Sriman Narayanan is standing at Thirukkurugoor, can we talk about other deities and other demi Gods? What nonsensical thing is that! 9. Adhinaathan is immeasurable and incomprehensible; Even the people of other six religions, maayaavaadins argue with any amount of logic, it is still not possible to measure His kalYANa guNAs. He is there at the most fertile land of Thirukkurugoor as Adhipiraan. Have His form in your mental eye and at the back of your minds; To get saved and prtected by Him, that is the best way. 10. Adhinaatha PerumAL stands at Thirukkurugoor as the Most faultless, Most Blemishless Lord. In Hi side, all dEvAs, all worlds, all beings and non-beings, are all His sarIram; Like that everything is in Him; Such Greatest Piraan, Parathvam, Primordial Chief is standing gracefully at Thirukkurugoor. Best purushaartham and best way is to become His servant eternally and serve Him, who is Vaamanan and KaNNan. So.... why to go to others when they themselves look to Him for alms? regards Namo Narayana dasan --- In SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Devarajan Venkataramanan" <devarajanvenkata@...> wrote: > > Respected Sri Vaishnava Bhakthaas, > When a Vaishnavite devotee has undergone what a layman would call > Pancha Samskaram at the hands of a Jiyar, can he go to a non- > vaishnava temple such as Shiva, Vinayaka and Muruga? > Had Ramanuja laid down any restriction? > I would be grateful for an opinion/advice. > Shrimathe Ramanujaaya Namaha! > Adiyen Devarajan. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/VkWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! 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