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Srimathe Ramanujaya namaha
 
Dear Swamin,
                    I am not very qualified to answer but still i am attempting since you have asked who is supreme. Without any doubt Lord Sriman Narayana is the supreme.All the Puranas were written by Veda Vyasa and the last one was Srimad Bhaghavatham. From this we can understand that Srimad Bhaghavatham supersedes his earlier writings. Before writing Bhaghavatam he was restless and was unhappy. At that time his Guru Narada Muni happened to pass through his hermitage,advised him to write about Lord Krishna and his devotees.Also told him that this is the medicine for his illness. Narada also told him that his earlier writings are useless and this (Srimad Bhaghavatam) alone will give him peace & happiness.  
We should never say that all gods are equal,AZhwars have quoted in many places that SRIMAN NARAYANA IS SUPREME & the others are subordinates. I do believe that Vaishnavas are less in number and Lord Krishna also says in GEETHA that not many know him. 
Best Regards,
azhagappan
PS: Normally when you write a story you glorify the hero and deride others,just to put more light. Like this he has said that Lord Vishnu
was defeated. Even in Mahabarat you will find that Lord Krishna was defeated by Jarasandan many times, If I remember 17 times, It does not mean that Jarasandan is superior to Lord Krishna, Ultimately Jarasandan was killed by Bhima on Lord's advice. Lord wants his devotees to get the glory. He could hve killed every one in seconds but wanted his devotee Arjuna to get glory.


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From: muralims2003@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:21:03 +0530
Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] Sriman nAThamuni Thirunakshathram- Let us prostrate at the lotus feet of unparalleled acharya!


To : All
 
Any body can answer this Question and I will be thankful to them.
 
As we the Srivaishnavas say Naarayana is the ultimate, Shivaitees say Shiva is ultimate.  Even I had read one book of Shiva Puranam beginning with Sutha telling story of Shiva to other Sages when they ask which is the way for Moksham in Kali Yugam.  This looks same as Srimad Bhagavatha (of Lord Vishnu) begins.  Even in chapters I read Lord Vishnu has been defeated in many cases, has been shown degraded in front of Lord Shiva, etc.  my 2 questions are :
 
1) If it is true, how these can be accepted, even if they do not believe Bhagavatha many of Shivaitees believe Mahabharatha and Lord Krishna's Bhagavadgeeta.  If so, how they can contradict their claim as Shiva is the supreme, when Lord Krishna showed each and every Gods in him during Vishwarupam and Arjuna saw even Lord Shiva among those, and Lord Krishna advises Arjuna to worship ultimate God Narayana.

2) If it is not true, how the Vaishnavas or Srivaishnavas have not taken actions on these Shiva Puranas and until today Shiva Purana is continued to be the sacred text without any revision or correction for the same.  More over, Vaishnavites are lesser in number compared to Shivaitees, how?  There may be many reasons for the same, but I want to know if any body gives is.  Whether Vaishnavas were more in number than Shivatitees ever in history?
 
I accept even all Gods are one and we may worship any or all Gods, but to pray and put our heart in the Lotus Feet of the God, I require atleast who is the supreme God, and if want to follow Lord Krishna's words "Whoever worship me will attain me and whoever workship other Gods will get them" and also "whoever worhip me will get Moksha and whoever worship other Gods will get limited period Returns and they will come back to Earth again".  So, in view of this at least I have to clear the above doubts. Even though Lord Krishna says "Performing your Dharma is best even though it looks dull and other Dharma looks shining", some times when we come across things like above, it will be better if we hear some exchanges from learned people like you.
 
I thank you in advance for all who reads this and if they put their words, so that many doubts will be clared for many Vaishnavas and Srivaishnavas (like me).
 
Regards,
 
Murali
 
 
--- On Tue, 15/7/08, Madhavakkannan V <srivaishnavan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Madhavakkannan V <srivaishnavan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [SriRangaSri] Sriman nAThamuni Thirunakshathram- Let us prostrate at the lotus feet of unparalleled acharya!
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Date: Tuesday, 15 July, 2008, 6:16 AM



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