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Dear Bhagavatas:
As per our Siddhantam, the very existence of our Sareeram is karma
aaadheenam. Even a Prapanna (One who has done Dripta Prapaati
i.e.Atma samarpaNam through SaraNaagathi FOR THE PURPOSE OF MOKSHAM)
has to go through the joys and sorrows during the Post-prapaati
period because in such a Prapatti, only entire Sanchita Karma and that 
part of the Praarabda Karma upto the moment of doing Prapaati get quashed. 
In such a Prapatti, one accepts to undergo the results of "Praarabda
karma" that still remains unexpended and has to be experiencd 
till the fnal release *dEhaavasaanam).

That is why even Prapannas are subject to mood swings due to the
interaction of Sattva, RajO and TamOguNaas and do commit Paapams
during this period, the effects of which they have to experience 
in the current lifetime itself  unless requited by 
"Praayschitta Prapatti"

In the case of Draupadi, the SaraNaagathi was NOT, REPEAT, NOT
for 'mOksham" but for altogether different purpose viz saving her 
modesty.

The SaraNaagathi did help her in her objective and NOTHING BEYOND
THAT. So, she has not been fully absolved from the infirmities to
which Jeevaatma is heir to even after Prapatti.

Naturally, she reacted in the way she did. 

Hope this helps.
Dasoham
Anbil Ramaswamy
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>From: sudarshan madabushi <mksudarshan2002@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: tiruvenkatam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,  
>oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [SriRangaSri] Smt. Subha Narayan's "Question on Draupadi"
>Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 04:59:04 +0000 (GMT)
>
>
>
>
>Dear members,
>
>Smt. Subha Narayan posed the following question to me
>several weeks ago on the Tiruvenkatam List. No one
>appears since to have responded to her very pertinent
>question. Since everyone else is unwilling to even
>attempt an answer, I take it upon myself to offer an
>explanation which although I cannot claim is based on
>any traditional commentary, is however based on an
>understanding of the Mahabharatha text and story-line.
>
>But please first take time to read Smt.Subha's
>question. My own comments follow thereafter:
>
>   --- Subha Narayan <nssuba03@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Dear Sir
> > > In the Mahabharata, it is the episode of
> > Draupadi?s humiliation in the Hastinapur Court. The
>story seems
> > > to be clear. Pandavas lost their kingdom in the
> > > dice-play & becomes slaves to Duryodana ; Draupadi
> > > was dragged to the royal court and was subjected
> > to> > the humiliation of being disrobed in front of
>the> > royal assembly. None of her husbands, the king
>or
> > > the royal courtiers including the wise Bheeshma or
> > > Dronacharya or anyone else came to her rescue. At
> > > the most critical moment of her life, Draupadi
> > > realized only Sriram Narayana could rescue her, if
> > > at all anyone and she emerges as a blessed one of
> > > His Karunyam. Many a time, I have heard Draupati
> > > being referred to as one of those who had complete
> > > faith in God, forsaking her sense of ego and was
> > > rewarded for her ?Maha Viswasam? ? I recall
> > Revered> > Sri Mukkur Swamy oft quoting ?Iru Kaiyyum
>Vitteno> > Draupadi-ay pole?.
> > >
> > > What happens after this? When she has realized
> > God,> > forsaking her sense of ego (?aham?karam /
> > > ?mama?karam), that she herself or anyone else
> > could> > save or help her and has been the recipient
>of his> > infinite power and compassion, Why then>
>immediately> > after all this, did she have to vow to
>have the> > Kauravas? blood ? Why then this
>hysterical> outburst> > and vengeance that she vowed
>that she would not> tie> > her hair until she had
>washed it in their blood ?> in
> > > the immediately preceding scene she seems to be a
> > > Brahma Gnani renunciating self / ego & realizing
> > God> > and in the very next moment, transforms into
>a> > hysterical women, demanding vengeance against the
> > > injustice done to her? I?m sure there must be a
> > very> > logical way of understanding these things
>and you> > would be kind & patient enough to give me a
>reply,> > at your convenience.
> > > Regards,
> > > > Subha.
>
>
>                        ***************
>
>My comments:
>
>It is true that Draupadi performed a singular and
>heart-rending act of self-surrender ("saraNagathi") in
>the court of Hastinapur. An act of genuine
>"saraNagathi" never fails the devotee and Draupadi
>too, as the Mahabharatha recounts, was saved by the
>Almighty in her moment of extreme crisis.
>
>Smt.Subha's question, if I may paraphrase it, is this:
>Isn't it odd that one who received, miraculously and
>directly, as it were, the benign Grace of God,
>remained still capable of that ordinary but vicious
>human urge called vengeance? One might expect Draupadi
>to have been so profoundly affected by the experience
>of "saraNAgathi" that it left her in an enduring if
>not permanent state of divine grace. It makes us
>expect Draupadi to have turned into some sort of
>saint, one who, as the French would say, "understands
>all, forgives all" ('tout comprendre, tout
>pardonner'). But Draupadi, as the story of the
>Mahabharatha goes, remained rather strangely untouched
>or un-transformed in spirit by the experience of her
>personal travails and redemption through
>"saraNagathi". She remained bitter and vengeful till
>the end, taking a terrible vow not to groom her hair
>until it was first washed in Kaurava blood.
>
>Is this sort of behaviour becoming of one who has
>performed "saraNAgathi"? Does vengeance behove she who
>had seen the Miracle of God with her own eyes? Should
>not have Draupadi been turned into a kinder,gentler,
>more compassionate, more forgiving and forbearing soul
>after the incident at Hastinapur? Isn't there some
>serious flaw in the very idea of "saraNAgathi" if, as
>in the case of Draupadi in the Mahabharatha, it is
>seen to clearly fail in fully cleansing the human
>heart of its vicious infirmities ("klEsha") such as
>vengeance?
>
>Smt.Subha's question is an extremely important and
>thought-provoking one indeed.
>
>I think I can offer a theory to explain the seeming
>but grievous flaw in Draupadi's character and, by
>implication, in the doctrine "saraNAgathi" as well.
>But I choose to disclose it after other members have
>had a chance to discuss it as well. I would like
>members to put forward any traditional "vyAkhyAna"
>that they may have come across.
>
>I will put forward my theory only after we have heard
>the traditional ones.
>
>Members, please do participate in this very
>interesting thread that Smt. Subha Narayan has begun.
>
>Thanks and regards,
>dAsan,
>
>Sudarshan
>
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