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Namaste!

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From: tiruvenkatam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tiruvenkatam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of M.G.Vasudevan
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:52 PM
To: oppiliappan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; tiruvenkatam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [t'venkatam] types of dharmam

>Dear sri vaishNava perunthagaiyeer,

>On this reply slokam of bheeshma, sri bhattar comments on the word
"dharmaaNaam adhikathama >dharma:" by elaborating on the classification of
dharma as

>- dharma is four fold - viz.
        1.      Dharma performed for material benefits viz. cattle children and 
other
benefits
        2.      Dharmam performed for obtaining celestial pleasures such as 
svarga [the
world of >gods]
        3.      Dharmam for attainment of salvation, which consists of 
realization of
time >knowledge by purification of self, by sacrifice, by charitable acts
without desire for fruits.
        4.      Dharmam of Meditation, singing in praise, prostration before 
the lord
with love and affection.
>And the fourth is the best of all as indicated by the superlative suffix
thama:


The 3rd point is somewhat contradictory in as far as desire is concerned.
You have briefed the procedure for attaining salvation and listed 'without
desire for fruits' also one of them, but the very act of obtaining salvation
presupposes that the 'desire for salvation' is obvious.  In fact, dharma of
meditation involving an urge to praise Lord is also a desire.

Vedas (Mundaka Up) says 'sa yo ha vai tatparamam brahma veda brahmaiva
bhavati'  Whoever knows that Supreme Brahman becomes Brahman indeed.
Attaining vaikunta is attaining Parabrahman himself there is no diff.
between vaikunta(one of the namas of Vishnu in VSN) and Parabrahman.  Are
they?

So is there any difference between the desire
- to attain Vaikunta/Brahman
- to praise Vaikunta/Brahman

Is not the sadhaka following 3rd dharma, desires salvation is akin to
desiring Vaikunta?
Is not the sadhaka while praising Vaikunta is liberated from loukika
thoughts/actions?  The very act of praising, following 4th dharma
presupposes that he is liberated from all materialistic dust at that very
moment.  Is n't so?

If we bring about difference between vaikunta & vishnu then we can arrive
difference between 3rd and 4th dharmas.


Regards
sukumar











Dhasan

Vasudevan m.g.



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