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--- In SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, vedanta desikan 
<kavitaarkikasimhan@xxxx> wrote:
> dear Amuthan sir,
> i wish to answer ur questions.
> the present day ashtangayoga is not decended from nathamuni as it 
is clear from guruparampara that Alavandar failed to collect it from 
Manakkal nambi. so better to avoid the yogam of nawadays 


After Sriman Nathamuni only Thiru Kurugai Kavalappan
had the knowledge of Ashtangayoga required for the 
performance of Bhakti Yoga. The last person known
to have performed this yoga in this yuga is this saint.
The story of Sri Alavandhar meeting Sri Kavalappan
is a fascinating one.

Sri Manakkal Nambi sent Sri Alavandhar to Kavalappan 
to study the yoga. When he arrived, Kavalappan was 
in deep meditation with Bhagavat Sakshatkaram (direct 
vision). Suddenly he (Sri Kavalappan) woke up and 
asked whether there was any descendent of "sottai 
kulam" present in the vicinity. Alavandhar being one 
answered, "adiyEn". And, he enquired how Sri Kavalappan 
guessed his presence. For this Sri Kavalappan explained 
that during his meditations Sriman Narayana's attention
is never distracted by anything. But on this occasion 
Sriman Narayana was not paying attention to Kavalappan.
In stead, Sriman Narayana was moving about and trying to 
take a peak behind Kavalappan. This could happen only 
if a descendent of Sriman Nathamunigal was present behind 
him. After this brief encounter Sri Kavalappan sent
Sri Alavandhar away with a promise to teach the yoga
at an appropriate time. Fortunately or unfortunately
this did not come to pass. We now have only one sure
way for mOksham in practice, namely, prapatti.


> 
> jeevas svatantryam is always contolled by the karma 


Jeevan's actions are controlled by five factors. Among
them are poorva karma, Bhagavat sankalpam, and jIvan's
own sankalpam.



> according to visishtaadvaita no nirguna bhramman is accepted nad 
we dont accept advitins experience as a real one


Even advaitin's would not accept their own experience 
as ultimately real!!! There is a funny story about 
this. A group of Advaitins with their Acarya were 
passing through a jungle. Suddenly a big elephant 
appeared full of rage. Everyone including the teacher
ran in all directions trying to save themselves. After 
the danger had passed they regrouped. Then, one 
precocious pupil asked the teacher, "It is understandable
that we ran as we have not mastered advaitam, but you
the teacher surely knew the elephant was not real. Why
did you also run from the elephant?" For this the teacher
calmly answered, "Well, the elephant was unreal and me
running for my life was also unreal!"

-- Dileepan





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