Sri Bhaktan Most of us are taught the same, when we were in school. But that was age, as kids most of us take, what ever that is taught, as absolute. But, as we grow older, the outlook changes and one can decipher what is right and what is wrong. I apologize, if i hurt your sentiments, but, Say, for example had some teacher taught us in school that 1+1 = 5 then would we still say that 1+1 = 5, even now. This is merely an analogy. pls don't start an argument on this by saying that it can be proven.... If "Sukhlam bharadharam..." refers to Vinayaka, what is need for the second stanza i.e " Agajananana padmarkkam, gajananam aharnisam....". Even in the poorva bhagam of vishnu sahasranamam, where "sukhlam ..." is followed by "yasya dvirada.. .." . The latter stanza explicitly refers to Vishwaksena because the first one refers to Sriman Narayana. Had the first stanza i.e "sukhlam ..." itself refered to vishwaksena, then there is no need for the second stanza.... .So, we can safely conclude that "Suklam bharadaram..." refers to Vishnu only. Lets look at the last part of of this "Sukhlam bharadaram..". i.e "sarva vignopashantaye". Bhaktan, wrote that this quality of removing obstacles is associated with Vinayaka only...Why, can't Vishnu remove the obstacles...?. Infact, it is Vishnu who has removed all the obstacles and impediments(rakshasas et al) as per our ithihasas and puranas. So, every part of that particular stanza refers to Vishnu alone. I hope elite members of this list can throw more light on these issues(By giving us some pramanams from scriptures etc)... Infact there are many non vaishnava bramhins in A.P, who even goto the extent of saying that Vinayaka is an avatara of Narayana. They even associate MahaLakshmi with vinayaka, but as per satric sanctions Sri has to be worshipped with Narayana alone...I don't know what is the pramana for all this...I am sure that none of the sattvic scriptures suport their claims.... Jai sriman Narayana vmkrishna Bhaktan <bhaktan@xxxx> wrote: Dear Sir, This is the way I was taught the meaning (in school - a long time back) and its transliteration. It is another way to look at the meaning of the sloka and may help understand why it may refer to Lord Vinayaka. Suklambaradaram - one who wears a white garment Visnum - all pervading Sasivarnam - one who has a brilliant complexion (like the full moon) Chaturbhujam - one who has four hands prasannavadanam - one who has an ever smiling face dhyayet - I meditate upon sarvavighnopashantaye- for the removal of all obstacles If we take the word "Visnum" for its literal sanskrit meaning and not as a reference to Lord Narayana, then this sloka could refer to Lord Vinayaka or any of the gods that people worship in our faith. Couple this with the line asking for "removal of all obstacles", the most common request asked of Lord Vinayaka and what he is known for as well. This interpretation may be why it is commonplace for people (me included) to think that this sloka refers to Lord Vinayaka. All languages are open to interpretation and Sanskrit, only more so. That is the beauty and the power of Sanskrit. Jai SrimanNarayana! Siva. Quoting Murali Krishna : > "sukhlam bharadaram ...." appears as prelude to vishnu saharanamam(in the > poorva bhagam). But no where the second stanza addressing Vinayaka/gajanana > appears in it . In fact it is followed either by a stanza addressing > vishwaksena(yasya dviradavaktradhya parisadyah....) or Vyasa(vyasam vasista > naptharam....). From these, we can easily infer that "Shuklam > bharadaram...." addresses the supreme vishnu/Narayana and only vishnu. The > addition of the other stanza relating to vinayaka/gajanana is to mislead > people by some unscrupulous elements. Sorry if this hurts someone's > sentiments, but facts are facts and have to be taken at its face value. > > -vmkrishna > > > > > M Karpagam wrote: > I read somewhere that the complete > "Shuklambaradaram Vishnum > >shashivarnam...... is > > Shuklaambaradaram Vishnum > shashivarnam chathurbujam > prasanna vadanam dhiyayethe > sarva vignopha saanthaye > > Gajanaana padmasana > gajanaana mahirsham > ane`ka dantam bakthanaama > eka dantam upasmayema. > > - Karpagam. > > > >From: sukumar > >To: "Srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" , > >Oppiliappan , "ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" > > > >Subject: [SriRangaSri] RE: the meaning of pranavam > >Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 19:03:10 +0530 > > > > > >Sri Krishnaya Namah! > > > >I have been looking for meaning of the sloka -- "Shuklambaradaram Vishnum > >shashivarnam............." As I can deduce nowhere in this sloka there is > >mention of Vinayaka, while there is a mention of Lord Vishnu. One of my > >acquintances (who is a purohit) also told me that this sloka is actually > >addressed to Lord Vishnu. > > > >If this is for Vinayaka, then do we have any such sloka for Lord > >Vishwaksena, which is chanted before starting any auspicious deeds. > > > > > >Sukumar > > > >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah! To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Srirangasri-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Catch all the cricket action. Download Yahoo! Score tracker [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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