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Sri Bhaktan 
Most of us are taught the same, when we were in school. But that was age, as 
kids most of us take, what ever that is taught, as absolute. But, as we grow 
older, the outlook changes and one can decipher what is right and what is 
wrong. I apologize, if i hurt your sentiments, but, Say, for example had some 
teacher taught us in school that 1+1 = 5 then would we still say that 1+1 = 5, 
even now. This is merely an analogy. pls don't start an argument on this by 
saying that it can be proven.... 
If "Sukhlam bharadharam..." refers to Vinayaka, what is need for the second 
stanza i.e " Agajananana padmarkkam, gajananam aharnisam....". 
Even in the poorva bhagam of vishnu sahasranamam, where "sukhlam ..." is 
followed by "yasya dvirada.. .." . The latter stanza explicitly refers to 
Vishwaksena because the first one refers to Sriman Narayana. Had the first 
stanza i.e "sukhlam ..." itself refered to vishwaksena, then there is no need 
for the second stanza.... .So, we can safely conclude that "Suklam 
bharadaram..." refers to Vishnu only. 
Lets look at the last part of of this "Sukhlam bharadaram..". i.e "sarva 
vignopashantaye". Bhaktan, wrote that this quality of removing obstacles is 
associated with Vinayaka only...Why, can't Vishnu remove the obstacles...?. 
Infact, it is Vishnu who has removed all the obstacles and 
impediments(rakshasas et al) as per our ithihasas and puranas. So, every part 
of that particular stanza refers to Vishnu alone.
I hope elite members of this list can throw more light on these issues(By 
giving us some pramanams from scriptures etc)...

Infact there are many non vaishnava bramhins in A.P, who even goto the extent 
of saying that Vinayaka is an avatara of Narayana. They even associate 
MahaLakshmi with vinayaka, but as per satric sanctions Sri has to be worshipped 
with Narayana alone...I don't know what is the pramana for all this...I am sure 
that none of the sattvic scriptures suport their claims....

Jai sriman Narayana 
vmkrishna

Bhaktan <bhaktan@xxxx> wrote:
Dear Sir,

This is the way I was taught the meaning (in school - a long time back) and 
its transliteration.
It is another way to look at the meaning of the sloka and may help understand 
why it may refer to Lord Vinayaka.

Suklambaradaram - one who wears a white garment
Visnum - all pervading
Sasivarnam - one who has a brilliant complexion (like the full moon)
Chaturbhujam - one who has four hands
prasannavadanam - one who has an ever smiling face
dhyayet - I meditate upon
sarvavighnopashantaye- for the removal of all obstacles 

If we take the word "Visnum" for its literal sanskrit meaning and not as a 
reference to Lord Narayana, then this sloka could refer to Lord Vinayaka or 
any of the gods that people worship in our faith. Couple this with the line 
asking for "removal of all obstacles", the most common request asked of Lord 
Vinayaka and what he is known for as well. 

This interpretation may be why it is commonplace for people (me included) to 
think that this sloka refers to Lord Vinayaka.

All languages are open to interpretation and Sanskrit, only more so.
That is the beauty and the power of Sanskrit.


Jai SrimanNarayana!
Siva.

Quoting Murali Krishna :

> "sukhlam bharadaram ...." appears as prelude to vishnu saharanamam(in the
> poorva bhagam). But no where the second stanza addressing Vinayaka/gajanana
> appears in it . In fact it is followed either by a stanza addressing
> vishwaksena(yasya dviradavaktradhya parisadyah....) or Vyasa(vyasam vasista
> naptharam....). From these, we can easily infer that "Shuklam
> bharadaram...." addresses the supreme vishnu/Narayana and only vishnu. The
> addition of the other stanza relating to vinayaka/gajanana is to mislead
> people by some unscrupulous elements. Sorry if this hurts someone's
> sentiments, but facts are facts and have to be taken at its face value.
> 
> -vmkrishna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> M Karpagam wrote:
> I read somewhere that the complete
> "Shuklambaradaram Vishnum
> >shashivarnam...... is
> 
> Shuklaambaradaram Vishnum
> shashivarnam chathurbujam
> prasanna vadanam dhiyayethe
> sarva vignopha saanthaye
> 
> Gajanaana padmasana
> gajanaana mahirsham
> ane`ka dantam bakthanaama
> eka dantam upasmayema.
> 
> - Karpagam.
> 
> 
> >From: sukumar 
> >To: "Srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" , 
> >Oppiliappan , "ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
> >
> >Subject: [SriRangaSri] RE: the meaning of pranavam
> >Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 19:03:10 +0530
> >
> >
> >Sri Krishnaya Namah!
> >
> >I have been looking for meaning of the sloka -- "Shuklambaradaram Vishnum
> >shashivarnam............." As I can deduce nowhere in this sloka there is
> >mention of Vinayaka, while there is a mention of Lord Vishnu. One of my
> >acquintances (who is a purohit) also told me that this sloka is actually
> >addressed to Lord Vishnu.
> >
> >If this is for Vinayaka, then do we have any such sloka for Lord
> >Vishwaksena, which is chanted before starting any auspicious deeds.
> >
> >
> >Sukumar
> >
> >Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah!





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