Dear Sri Narayanan and Sri Varada Rajan : Thanks for your notes . Your points about the date synchronization problems between the most ancient VedA (Rg) and more recent Dhivya Prabhandhams are well understood , anticipated and respected . Thirumangai was indeed a real local king who lived in the 9th century. Swamy NammAzhwAr incarnated few centuries earlier ( some say at the beginning of Kali Yugam ; His disciple Madhura Kavi was here and lived towards the end of DhwApara Yugam and the beginning of Kali Yugam . The dating of AzhwAr's avathAra time is a tug of war between traditionalists & modern day researchers like Sri Vyaapuri PiLLai et al. I did not want to get into those controversies , although I lean towards all AzhwArs being born between 5th and 9th centuries . The eternal VedAs have a way of looking at some things and commenting on them elliptically some times . The persistent reference to " ChathvAri Sahasram " and the mentioning of Rusmaa in the same manthrams inspired me to intrepret the way in which I connected the information points. Indeed , the word Chathwari is often found in Vedic parlance. ChathwAri Sahasram is 4,000 . Among the four manthrams, we come across reference to " Chathu: Sahasram gavaam " ( Four thousand cows or words of wisdom). The "Go " sabdham in Vedic usage has many meanings : (1) Cow (2) Divine speech (3) Jwalai (4) BhUmi (5) Victory (6) Flight (7) JnanakkaNN / wisdom eye / the inner eye / dhivya chakshus (8) Speeding arrow and (9) Moksham. The path of Moksham described by the MahA Jn~Anis (AzhwArs who were yet to be born ) thru their 4000 sacred utterances (NaalAyira dhivya Prabhandham) realized from their Yoga Balam and Jn~Ana Chakshus for the benefit of SamsAris falls then in place . The birth of these great path revealers is what I was commenting upon with a little bit of poetic license . This fits in with another general prayer housed in Yajur Vedam : " Aaa Brahman BrahmaNO Brahmavarchasee jAyatAmA RaashtrE - - " Yajur Vedam : XXII.22 ( O Supreme Lord ! May there be born in this nation , the learned intellectuals , illustrious for their sacred knowledge ). That is all ! V.Sadagopan ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/VkWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SriRangaSri/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: SriRangaSri-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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