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SrI:

Dear All:

The responses provided by Sriman Vaasu VaadhyAr 
are valuable to clear number of doubts that assail us
on the subject of Pithrus , Sraddham and PrapannAs .

I am sure you will find these inputs useful to you .

NamO Sriman Narayanaya ,
V.Sadagopan 



--- In vaideekam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dr. Sadagopan" <yennappan@...> 
wrote:

SrI:

Dear Sriman Vaasu VaadhyAr Swamy :
***
Dasan,
***
Could you please help a number of our readers ,
who wonder about Sraaddham related matters :

1) Who are pithrus ?
*** Departed three generation father side parents.

2) What are their links to the departed ?
*** This is replied from my experience; there may be some
evidence or may not be:
While doing the Sapindikarnam, a manthram "ye samaanaaha samanasaha 
yamaraajyea ..... theshaam sri: mayi kalpathaam"
It is instructed this manthram should be told in 
raising tone i.e, in high pitch at the end.

Pithrus are three type or three positions :
1. Vasu Roopam 2.Rudra roopam 3. Aadhithya roopam

by the sound produced here the 'anma' is pushed from here
by the vibrations produced.
At the same time, the pithrus already who are in the above
three stages are there to lift this new atma from their positions.
By which the new atma is getting the Vasu position of Vasu roopam
the old pithrus are getting shifted to next position.
The third one is  reaching the swargam.

To proove this: (or as an evidence) the manthram told while 
performing the 'Go (cow)' dhaanam, the manthram is like this:
"mama  pithu prethasya / maathru prethayaa: pretha logaadhu pithru 
logam gachchadha: madhya vaitharani nadhi uththaranartham ...."

So it is proved that pretha roopi is getting the pithru roopam.

Then ,
the manthram told while doing the 'Paadheya dhaanam' (curd rice 
bundle) the sankalpam is like this:
"mama .......... pithru logaadh swarga logam gachchatha: madhya adhva 
shram nivruthyartham ....."
So it is proved that the pithru roopi is getting the Swargam.

The difference between prapanna (sharanagathan) and others is:
The same anma is there in the all three roopams in the case of others
and some other deputed devada is there in the case of Prapannan.

This is to maintain the link for the future atmas.
***

3) How does PiNDam and Tilam offered to
the Pithrus reach them and satisfy them ?

***
A person who is having a physical body needs some food in the form
of solid or liquid (physically).
Pithrus are not in the physical form, so they don't need any physical 
form of food.
But shastras are made for the convenient of human who are in the 
world with physical bodies.
When one is doing his duty some other dharmam also to be protected or 
maintained. So, sastram is instructing man to do Pancha yagnam daily.
The food offered for one or two swamis are coming under manushya 
yagnam.
Pindams and thilam are going for Bhudha yagnam which will be given to 
some cow or crow and or fishes in the pond.

Pindams are some sort of representation to convince the man by giving 
some physical form to assume and to do with care (shradhai).
***

4) When some one leaves the body and 
the Jeevan enters into another body ,
how is the food offered to a departed person 
who was rerelated to you reach  the Jeevan 
experiencing its karmAs in another body ?

***
Jeevas are taking another body is a common verse not for brahmins,
the facility and speciality given for brahmin is the one that he can 
protect their pithrus from rebirth by performing the pithru karmas.

If he does the karma perfectly then there is no room for this 
question. 

Even if the soul got a new body (by chance), to keep the shastram he 
has to perform the karmas.
***
5) In the case of the Muktha Jeevan that 
never returns again to the Karma BhUmi 
after SaraNAgathy , what happens to 
the Food offered in their name during 
the Sraaddham ?
***
Food offered is not for the pithrus, they are getting only 
satisfcation.  By offering the food to a swamin with the physical 
body here in this world is getting a satisfaction, by which the atma 
of that swamin is getting some kind of satisfaction which can be 
conveyed are shared by the pitru atma which is some where else.

It can be prooved, that a person can talk from world with the person 
who is in the moon. It shows, that a sound wave produced here is 
spreading infinitely / endlessly to all places. 
Like that this satisfaction feeling also can be conveyed.
***
6) What is the relationship between
the Pithrus and the Prapanna Jeevan ,
if at all any ?

***
Pithrus are the representatives of Prapanna jeevas arranged by 
bhagavan to maintain the shastram for the convenient of future
atma to get the link.

We are doing all karmas as "Sriman naarayana preethyartham"
not as "Pithru preethyartham".

"Ekovishu: mahath bhudham .... bhunkthe .... avyaya:"
Vishnu himself is taking / eating all these things.
***

Dear Mmebers : I hope I have capyured your 
questions . If there are others left out , please 
ask . Let us focus on this area .

NamO SrI Veda PurushAya ,
V.Sadagopan 
 
***
I don't know that I have conveyed the matter clearly or not.
Now a days, situation is not permitting me to answer questions with 
patience.
dasan,
nvs
Extremely sorry.

--- End forwarded message ---






 
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