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Radhae Radhae 

My humble pranams to my brothers and sisters of The Divine Truth.

In the recent post of this yahoo group I have realized that many of 
us do not know the difference of Divine ecstasy and trance. These 
two modes of expressions has vast difference, many of our Archarayas 
have shown us Divine experience according to the nature of Bakthi. 
Keep in mind that the MIND (mana) is divided into 2 parts the 
conscious and the sub conscious, experience of Divine ecstasy and 
trance are a product of the mind. Bakthi is also a product of the 
mind. Bakthi cannot be performed by the body as many of  you may 
think, Bakthi is an act involving the mind In many cases of history 
with bakthas you would notice that the application of the mind in 
the course of Sadhana Bakthi the mind played the predominant role . 
As such Bakthi can only be performed by the mind and not the body. 

Divine ecstasy is a state where the mind has established full 
potency of Bakthi and the Lord who is the object of Bakthi has been 
revealed in reality to the baktha. Upon such revelation by the Lord 
the love play between the baktha and the Lord takes place The Lord 
is as real as you and I are real to a mundane mind in such a state 
of Divinity. 

A state of trance is an opposite reaction of the subconscious mind 
and it varies in various degrees depending of the prarabdh karma 
(past karma) that one has acquired. Trance modes can come on to 
anybody. Trance mode may be sober or may be ferocious. Some people 
seem to believe that God has come upon them the truth of the factor 
is that God has not come upon men. Many of us have various degrees 
of intellectual understanding of God. Depending on what we 
intellectually understand. Man when in the state of trance coupled 
with prarabdh karma takes on a state of trance which is of the sub 
conscious level and portrays a certain act in such state. People who 
are in trance are able to see understand and tell the truth and in 
certain extent depending on the accumulated karma they may even lie 
eat meat, murder or hurt someone. We even have situation where they 
bless mankind and behave all Lordly and Godly. . When a person 
leaves a state of trance he forgets what has happened  In certain 
instances  they may have walked on fire , pierced  or hurt them 
selves and some after the state of coming out of trance may feel the 
pain  and some may not even feel the  pain  inflicted on them. Some 
people can even go on trance on demand 

Now back to Divine ecstasy, great bakthas have show us the state of 
Divine ecstasy and for those of us who has seen such bakthas we 
would realize that in that sate they are still bakthas and the 
longing for the Lord has increased in thousand folds. The manifest 
horripilation, chocking voices, tears rolling down, laughing, 
smiling, crying and running and after thin air in search of 
something important. Some talk to the tress, leaves and creepers 
asking if they have seen the Lord like the Gopis of Braj. Gauranga 
Deva Chaitanya Mahaprabhu Swami was the only one ho portrayed Divine 
ecstasy of the highest nature of Radha Prem.

 More can be said and talked about the Divine ecstasy It's a feeling 
that's beyond words Jagadguru Kripalu Mahaprabhu has said "Sensual 
pleasures burn your heart and excite anxiety, whereas Krishna love 
rejoices your heart and spreads a wave of contentment through your 
whole being.It is a 'feeling' that has no definition. It is 'love' 
that has no bounds. It is a 'pleasure' that has no restrictions, and 
it is 'happiness' that has no limits. It is something that includes 
everything your soul needs, and it is the only thing your soul has 
always desired".(http://www.jkp.org)

I have only given a gist of my understanding and more is there to be 
revealed, so in future don't be confused between trance and Divine 
ecstasy. 

Radhae Radhae 

Dr Gopal Raja 
Bakhi Dham 
Kuala Lumpur 
20th Oct 2004
 










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