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by Jordan Day
July 1st, 2015, 12:36 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Corinthians 14:12
Replies: 2
Views: 592

Re: 1 Corinthians 14:12

Ahh...I didn't think to look up ἵνα in BDAG. Thank you Carl.
by Jordan Day
July 1st, 2015, 6:09 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Corinthians 14:12
Replies: 2
Views: 592

1 Corinthians 14:12

1 Corinthians 14:12 οὕτως καὶ ὑμεῖς, ἐπεὶ ζηλωταί ἐστε πνευμάτων, πρὸς τὴν οἰκοδομὴν τῆς ἐκκλησίας ζητεῖτε ἵνα περισσεύητε ESV: So with yourselves, since you are eager for manifestations of the Spirit, strive to excel in building up the church. NET: It is the same with you. Since you are eager for ...
by Jordan Day
January 25th, 2015, 8:03 am
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: HELP with HOMER
Replies: 17
Views: 2798

Re: HELP with HOMER

Thank you for the links Carl. I think I should get a handle on the hexameter before moving forward. These links will help. Perhaps then, some of the word order will make more sense.
by Jordan Day
January 22nd, 2015, 8:32 pm
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: HELP with HOMER
Replies: 17
Views: 2798

Re: HELP with HOMER

You have been reading this aloud as dactylic hexameter verse, haven't you? :oops: Unfortunately I haven't the foggiest clue what that is supposed to sound like. If not, you must. You'll get much more out of it by hearing, feeling the rhythm of the Homeric line. I assume I will need to change my pro...
by Jordan Day
January 19th, 2015, 11:41 pm
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: HELP with HOMER
Replies: 17
Views: 2798

Re: HELP with HOMER

2) Does anyone see anything wrong with my translation and understanding of the text? That's too broad a question, really. There's not one single right way to do this -- have you noticed how many English translations of the Iliad are on the market? I think that if you want suggestions from members o...
by Jordan Day
January 18th, 2015, 11:28 pm
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: HELP with HOMER
Replies: 17
Views: 2798

Re: HELP with HOMER

And thank you Wes for your interest, and Mark for the link to an Attic translation (very interesting and helpful). Here are lines 6.5-11 5- Αἴας δὲ πρῶτος Τελαμώνιος ἕρκος Ἀχαιῶν 6- Τρώων ῥῆξε φάλαγγα, φόως δ᾽ ἑτάροισιν ἔθηκεν, 7- ἄνδρα βαλὼν ὃς ἄριστος ἐνὶ Θρῄκεσσι τέτυκτο 8- υἱὸν Ἐϋσσώρου Ἀκάμαντ᾽...
by Jordan Day
January 18th, 2015, 10:42 pm
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: HELP with HOMER
Replies: 17
Views: 2798

Re: HELP with HOMER

Homeric verse composition, so says the theory, is a matter of an entire memorized trove of expressions in perfect metrical formulation that are to be fitted together like jigsaw puzzle pieces so as to form an intricate and intelligible pattern. Wow, I had no idea that was the theory. That is wild.....
by Jordan Day
January 17th, 2015, 1:45 pm
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: HELP with HOMER
Replies: 17
Views: 2798

HELP with HOMER

As a new years resolution I decided to get a decent grasp on Homeric Greek. I haven't read much of anything outside the NT, so I purchased Geoffrey Steadman's reader of Homer's Iliad books 6 and 22. I am starting with book 6. After reading 3 pages, I was already beginning to realize that it would be...
by Jordan Day
June 15th, 2014, 10:26 am
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: Lysias' Λόγος ὑπὲρ τοῦ ἀδυνάτου
Replies: 176
Views: 23657

#3 Lysias' Λόγος ὑπὲρ τοῦ ἀδυνάτου

I'm sure by now, you are beginning to get a first impression of the degree to which there are similarities and differences between this Greek and the Greek in the New Testament. As difficult as it is, it still seems like the same language. It is mostly the vocabulary I am struggling with (both with...
by Jordan Day
June 11th, 2014, 9:39 pm
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: Lysias' Λόγος ὑπὲρ τοῦ ἀδυνάτου
Replies: 176
Views: 23657

#2 Lysias' Λόγος ὑπὲρ τοῦ ἀδυνάτου

καίτοι ὅστις τούτοις φθονεῖ οὓς οἱ ἄλλοι ἐλεοῦσι, τίνος ἂν ὑμῖν ὁ τοιοῦτος ¹ἀποσχέσθαι¹ ²δοκεῖ² πονηρίας; εἰ μὲν γὰρ ³ἕνεκα³ ⁴χρημάτων⁴ με συκοφαντεῖ —— : εἰ δ᾽ ὡς ἐχθρὸν ⁵ἑαυτοῦ⁵ με τιμωρεῖται, ψεύδεται: διὰ γὰρ τὴν πονηρίαν αὐτοῦ οὔτε φίλῳ οὔτε ἐχθρῷ πώποτε ⁶ἐχρησάμην⁶ αὐτῷ And yet, if someone en...

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