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by Eeli Kaikkonen
July 9th, 2020, 1:39 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects
Replies: 22
Views: 448

Re: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects

The Cambridge Grammar of Classical Greek (2019, p. 328 ff.) is a bit clearer with the article in general. Meaning: * "The article is 'definite' because it refers to someone/something that is identifiable." * Reasons for identifiability: ** mentioned before ** obvious from the context or made specifi...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
July 9th, 2020, 10:00 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects
Replies: 22
Views: 448

Re: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects

I think it's quite stretch to say it means anything other than what English means by "the dead." I didn't say that or think that. It's not about what it "means" (whatever that means). The referent is certainly the same -- all the dead people. But think about it this way: we have verbs and they have...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
July 9th, 2020, 7:11 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects
Replies: 22
Views: 448

Re: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects

I am not sure that descriptive grammar needs to go deeply into "why." Why the article is "frequently" omitted in prepositional phrases is an interesting question, but that it happens is even more important to one learning the language. How much the descriptive statements can be separated from "why"...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
July 9th, 2020, 5:04 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects
Replies: 22
Views: 448

Re: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects

Interesting example is "out of water", "from water". * Exodus 2:10 (LXX; versification from RSV etc.) * Matthew 3:16 * Mark 1:10 * John 3:5 * Acts 8:39 * II Peter 3:5 * Revelation 8:11 * II Samuel 22:17 / Psalms 8:16 * Psalms 69:14 * Psalms 144:7 * Ezekiel 31:5 Why would this be interesting? They lo...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
July 9th, 2020, 3:44 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects
Replies: 22
Views: 448

Re: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects

I agree with Stephen on pretty much all about Siebenthal. It's somewhat a disappointment because it doesn't seem to give a thought to possible linguistic explanations to many phenomena. Maybe there's just not enough knowledge about the article that he could say something which isn't unsure or specul...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
June 26th, 2020, 5:35 am
Forum: Bible Study Software
Topic: Sad news about ... bible software in general.
Replies: 7
Views: 295

Re: Sad news about ... bible software in general.

I would prefer to see open module formats that can be used with multiple vendors' tools. OSIS is already such format, and the text modules can be encrypted. The Open Source SWORD library and all the applications using it could use those modules. But for some reason the publishers of texts don't wan...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
June 1st, 2020, 4:40 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Anaphoric Article
Replies: 9
Views: 399

Re: Anaphoric Article

Stirling Bartholomew wrote:
May 31st, 2020, 9:59 pm
The book by Murray J Harris is found at the link provided.
Somehow just looking at the link text my inner sense tells me it's a completely legitimate legal copy, shared to the public with the consent of the copyright owners...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
May 28th, 2020, 2:03 pm
Forum: Greek Texts
Topic: Luther's translation of αἰών/αἰώνιος
Replies: 19
Views: 671

Re: Luther's xlation of αιων/αιωνιος

He said he tried hard to change John 3.16 to something like "For God loved the world in this way..." ESV: "For God so loved the world" It was hardly about "world" but rather "so". This is a well known problem in some translations, it happens to be the same problem in Finnish, too. "So" may be under...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
May 26th, 2020, 8:54 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Mellas - Verbal Aspect in Epistolary Material
Replies: 6
Views: 272

Re: Mellas - Verbal Aspect in Epistolary Material

Regardless of the danger of being offtopic - this took my attention:
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by Eeli Kaikkonen
May 5th, 2020, 4:12 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: Abbott-Smith note on γινώσκω vs οἶδα
Replies: 17
Views: 11839

Re: Abbott-Smith note on γινώσκω vs οἶδα

For what it's worth... In Finnish we have two words, "tietää" and "tuntea". "Tietää" usually means "to know, have knowledge about" (cognitively). For example in "I know how it goes", "I knew this would happen", "I know elephants are animals", "I know the answer" etc. "Tuntea" means usually "to feel"...

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