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- July 7th, 2014, 6:57 pm
- Forum: What does this text mean?
- Topic: Revelation 11: 3 - καὶ δώσω τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου
- Replies: 20
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Re: Revelation 11: 3 - καὶ δώσω τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου
My summary of things learned: 1. Do not trust free Internet Greek tools to parse accurately. One tool indicated to me that the use of τοῖς here, is neuter. Had I just double checked it myself, it would have been obvious (as pointed out multiple times) that τοῖς is Dative Masculine Plural in this cas...
- July 7th, 2014, 6:17 am
- Forum: What does this text mean?
- Topic: Revelation 11: 3 - καὶ δώσω τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8314
Re: Revelation 11: 3 - καὶ δώσω τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου
Thanks Barry,
I think I get it now.
That's quite helpful,
Travis
I think I get it now.
That's quite helpful,
Travis
- July 7th, 2014, 5:48 am
- Forum: What does this text mean?
- Topic: Revelation 11: 3 - καὶ δώσω τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8314
Re: Grammatical / natural gender
In the phrase τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν, the noun μάρτυσίν is dative masculine plural, so τοῖς and δυσὶν are dative masculine plural to match the noun. Ok, so the phrase τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν doesn't tell you anything more than: these are witnesses, and there are two of them. There is one other thing that ...
- July 6th, 2014, 9:12 pm
- Forum: What does this text mean?
- Topic: Revelation 11: 3 - καὶ δώσω τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8314
Re: Revelation 11: 3 - καὶ δώσω τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου
The fact that τοῖς is neuter isn't even a fact ;=> τοῖς can be either dative masculine plural or dative neuter plural. In the phrase τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν, the noun μάρτυσίν is dative masculine plural, so τοῖς and δυσὶν are dative masculine plural to match the noun. Ok, so the phrase τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυ...
- July 6th, 2014, 8:54 pm
- Forum: What does this text mean?
- Topic: Revelation 11: 3 - καὶ δώσω τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8314
Re: Revelation 11: 3 - καὶ δώσω τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου
Travis, The object of δώσω is not specified. That verb in passive is used frequently in Apocalypse where an agent is "enabled" by divine providence to perform some action. In the active form here it seems to indicate that the two witnesses will be authorized and enabled for the task defin...
- July 6th, 2014, 3:40 pm
- Forum: What does this text mean?
- Topic: Revelation 11: 3 - καὶ δώσω τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8314
Revelation 11: 3 - καὶ δώσω τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου
καὶ δώσω τοῖς δυσὶν μάρτυσίν μου καὶ προφητεύσουσιν ἡμέρας χιλίας διακοσίας ἑξήκοντα περιβεβλημένοι Revelation 11: 3 Ok, I may be trying to jump into the deep end here before I'm ready. So if you think I need to be rescued from drowning, please feel free to save me :D . Im interested in this first p...
- June 2nd, 2014, 6:10 pm
- Forum: What does this text mean?
- Topic: καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς ὑπάγετε
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1630
Re: καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς ὑπάγετε
Thanks,
That makes sense. It seems Wuest "expanded" a little too much there.
Very helpful.
That makes sense. It seems Wuest "expanded" a little too much there.
Very helpful.
- June 1st, 2014, 6:51 pm
- Forum: What does this text mean?
- Topic: καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς ὑπάγετε
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1630
καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς ὑπάγετε
[Administrator note: Please remember to sign with your first and last name...] Matthew 8:32a καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς ὑπάγετε MGNT I like to reference Kenneth Wuest's English NT "expanded translation" from time to time regarding certain verses and chapters of the NT. Wuest translates this section ...
- May 21st, 2014, 5:23 pm
- Forum: Introductions
- Topic: Glad to be here
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1983
Re: Glad to be here
Greetings and welcome, Travis. This is one of the journeys of which it is actually true, that there is as much benefit in the journey as their is in the arrival. You will also find it the never ending journey. Oh, I don't mean you won't accomplish the goal you have set for yourself, but you will fi...
- May 20th, 2014, 8:14 pm
- Forum: Introductions
- Topic: Glad to be here
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1983
Glad to be here
Hello, My name is Travis. I hail from the midwestern portion of the United States of America. Although foreign languages (I'm an English native speaker), and especially something like biblical Greek, have nothing to do with my formal education or field of work, I do have an extremely large affinity ...