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by Daniel Semler
November 13th, 2020, 1:22 pm
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: Coining a phrase
Replies: 15
Views: 334

Re: Coining a phrase

I completely agree with Seumas that λέγεται is preferable and that λέγω generally is used for "calling" someone or something by a given name or title all over the literature, including in the New Testament. Whereas ὀνομάζω is used, it isn't as frequent or as colloquial. If you're asking how to say ...
by Daniel Semler
November 13th, 2020, 1:10 pm
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: Coining a phrase
Replies: 15
Views: 334

Re: Coining a phrase

The Koiné period, I'm sure, had a variety of styles of education. The word διδασκαλεῖον is apparently not one that was used in the literature (at least, it doesn't appear in Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich [1957] - the version that I have in print). If you're limiting yourself to only vocabulary that was used...
by Daniel Semler
November 13th, 2020, 11:23 am
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: Coining a phrase
Replies: 15
Views: 334

Re: Coining a phrase

to mean, signify: τί τοῦτο λέγει, πρὸ Πύλοιο; what does “before Pylos” mean? ARISTOPH. Eq. 1059; πῶς λέγεις; what do you mean? Personally, I prefer the middle form for the question, πῶς fruitbowl λέγεται Ἑλληνιστί; Thanx Seumas. I am wondering if Ed is drawing a distinction between "what do mean ?"...
by Daniel Semler
November 13th, 2020, 11:13 am
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: Coining a phrase
Replies: 15
Views: 334

Re: Coining a phrase

You should not be using the verb λέγω, which should be translated pronounce. Instead the proper verb would be ονομάζω, to give a name to something. I'm not sure where you are coming from on this, Ed. λέγω is about the most generic way to say "say" as you can get. ① to express oneself orally or in w...
by Daniel Semler
November 12th, 2020, 10:08 pm
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: Coining a phrase
Replies: 15
Views: 334

Re: Coining a phrase

Woodhouse gives τὸ διδασκαλεῖον for "school." τὰ ἐν τῷ διδασκαλείῳ ἐρωτώμενα - "things asked in the school" What do you think? Right, σχολή means "leisure". Ah ... σχολή ... hmmmm... I should have expected that this would be challenged but I have gotten used to using σχολή in this sense in class an...
by Daniel Semler
November 12th, 2020, 9:42 pm
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: Coining a phrase
Replies: 15
Views: 334

Re: Coining a phrase

You should not be using the verb λέγω, which should be translated pronounce. Instead the proper verb would be ονομάζω, to give a name to something. Hi Ed, many thanx for this. It wasn't actually what I was asking about but my example definitely used a phrasing that I picked up from another source (...
by Daniel Semler
November 12th, 2020, 9:30 pm
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: Coining a phrase
Replies: 15
Views: 334

Re: Coining a phrase

Woodhouse gives τὸ διδασκαλεῖον for "school." τὰ ἐν τῷ διδασκαλείῳ ἐρωτώμενα - "things asked in the school" What do you think? Thanx Jason. Your response raises two questions: 1. Is the verbal phrasing to be preferred ? Is it more Greek ? might well be and I had considered doing something similar 2...
by Daniel Semler
November 11th, 2020, 9:45 pm
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: Coining a phrase
Replies: 15
Views: 334

Coining a phrase

Hi All, I am writing up a small phrase book for myself. I am including categories. All the meta-language, name of the file, categories, the column headings are in Greek. Only the English translations or glosses are in English. As a result I find myself trying to name categories. One I have is School...
by Daniel Semler
November 8th, 2020, 8:27 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Heb 11:1 Ἔστιν δὲ πίστις ...
Replies: 10
Views: 263

Re: Heb 11:1 Ἔστιν δὲ πίστις ...

Attridge looks like a(n uncited) source for Ellingworth, and the examples are much more to the point: I thought the same and indeed Ellingsworth does mention in the Preface ...; in its final  stages of preparation it has greatly benefited from the work of Attridge and Lane. Paul Ellingworth, The Ep...
by Daniel Semler
November 8th, 2020, 1:48 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Heb 11:1 Ἔστιν δὲ πίστις ...
Replies: 10
Views: 263

Re: Heb 11:1 Ἕστιν δὲ πίστις ...

Seriously not excellent that. So I had a look in Attridge, Hermeneia. He makes a similar comment and list references mostly not in NT, though he includes the 1Tim 6:6, but rather in Plato as Ellingsworth does. The references are the same except that he adds 4 Macc 1.16. “σοφία δὴ τοίνυν ἐστὶν γνῶσις...

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