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by Stephen Nelson
January 18th, 2020, 4:53 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Colors in Ancient Greek
Replies: 30
Views: 1513

Re: Colors in Ancient Greek

This on topic article seems to be causing some controversy online: https://www.greecehighdefinition.com/blog/2019/4/7/is-it-true-that-the-ancient-greeks-could-not-see-blue-until-modern-times-?fbclid=IwAR0Jo-NzoepUQxVpz5RBeDi9Q3Lql2ucMlApZzHRDBIZhAuV0HBACDZgLTQ The title says it all - " Is it true th...
by Stephen Nelson
January 13th, 2020, 5:38 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Colors in Ancient Greek
Replies: 30
Views: 1513

Re: Colors in Ancient Greek

For example, the only blue they would see is the sky or lapis lazuli, both of which could be called "sky" or "lapis lazuli" straight up... who needs a color name for it? That's interesting. I also found this video rather entertaining and informative - https://youtu.be/NVhA18_dmg0 It seems like, eve...
by Stephen Nelson
December 31st, 2019, 3:48 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Colors in Ancient Greek
Replies: 30
Views: 1513

Re: Colors in Ancient Greek

Based on various descriptions in the Gospels of the ᾽red/purple᾽ robe that the Romans temporarily put on Jesus prior to His crucifixion (in light of other valid examples of these colors in Greek), is it safe to conclude that "scarlet" (κόκκινον) and “purple” (πορφύρα/πορφυροῦν) were quite distinct a...
by Stephen Nelson
December 13th, 2019, 1:01 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Colors in Ancient Greek
Replies: 30
Views: 1513

Re: Colors in Ancient Greek

You might put ὠχρόν "pale" with μήλινον or even left of λευκόν, since it is a bridge between yellow and white. “τὸ δὲ ὠχρὸν γίγνεται λευκοῦ ξανθῷ μειγνυμένου” Thanks! I've moved some things around. The yellow spectrum now grades from μήλινον to θειῶδες to ὠχρόν. I'm puzzled by the LSJ reference to ...
by Stephen Nelson
December 12th, 2019, 2:32 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Colors in Ancient Greek
Replies: 30
Views: 1513

Re: Colors in Ancient Greek

I've cross-posted this to the Textkit Greek Forum for additional feedback. I've already received a helpful suggestion to add ὠχρόν (pale or yellow). But I'm tempted to shift it further right onto the border with χλωρόν. I'll put the update here as a remote image reference. That way I can just update...
by Stephen Nelson
December 9th, 2019, 3:23 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Colors in Ancient Greek
Replies: 30
Views: 1513

Re: Colors in Ancient Greek

Here's a very slight revision to my Ancient Greek Color Palette that incorporates a bit more 'brown' into the spectrum of ξανθόν, along with a lighter 'gray' hue in between γλαυκόν and χαραπόν. My lingering doubt is regarding whether or not κόκκινον should be set dead center in the 'bright red' box....
by Stephen Nelson
December 7th, 2019, 11:21 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Colors in Ancient Greek
Replies: 30
Views: 1513

Re: Colors in Ancient Greek

Thank you for the encouragement. I'm glad you found my work helpful. It's obviously a work in progress and a continual learning experience. I chose ξανθός for “brown” based on the LSJ definition, which gives “brown, auburn” as meanings in addition to “yellow”. Yeah, ξανθός seems to have more of a ra...
by Stephen Nelson
December 7th, 2019, 1:20 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Colors in Ancient Greek
Replies: 30
Views: 1513

Re: Colors in Ancient Greek

I've made some minor tweaks. NOTES: *οἶνοψ - only attested in Homer (rather than "Epic"). *γλαυκόν & χαροπόν - denote colors only later in Archaic period The latter is a bit of a mouthful. I just can't quite think of a way to make it more concise, yet clear. Can anyone think of any other notes/clari...
by Stephen Nelson
December 7th, 2019, 4:44 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Colors in Ancient Greek
Replies: 30
Views: 1513

Re: Colors in Ancient Greek

Thanks Here's an updated version. I basically flipped everything around. I realized too late that you were seemingly suggesting to go light-dark. But it felt natural to go dark-light based on the other gradations. IDK, maybe it's the phrase "black & white" exuding some influence on my subconscious. ...
by Stephen Nelson
December 7th, 2019, 3:08 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Colors in Ancient Greek
Replies: 30
Views: 1513

Re: Colors in Ancient Greek

Thank you so much!!! Here's a cursory attempt to incorporate those suggestions. I changed up the ordering of the colors, showing red at either side of the colored bands. I moved ὑακίνθινον into a spot at the end of the purple spectrum with a little dark blue and black. Maybe that's a better home for...

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