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by Leif Strom
September 4th, 2020, 9:44 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Dating of the Greek book of Enoch
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Re: Dating of the Greek book of Enoch

Thanks for the information, and for your time.
And thanks to the forum. This has helped me a lot.
by Leif Strom
September 1st, 2020, 10:59 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Dating of the Greek book of Enoch
Replies: 11
Views: 53357

Re: Dating of the Greek book of Enoch

I haven't been able to find the word κόσμιος in any of the greek Enoch texts that I have, nor on the net. And I am not aware of any aramaic fragments of ch. 20:2-4. J Milik has 8:1 in aramaic, but the word for ornaments is there between brackets. Could you tell me where to find those examples you re...
by Leif Strom
September 1st, 2020, 6:25 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Dating of the Greek book of Enoch
Replies: 11
Views: 53357

Re: Dating of the Greek book of Enoch

... kosmos is spherical” (Aristotle, Cael. 2.5.287b15); Are you saying that tou kosmou in Enoch 20:2 should be translated 'the sphere', 'the firmament' or something similar, ie the aramaic was 'rakia'? It seems more likely to me that the aramaic was 'tzeva', host, or 'tzeva shamayim', and that the t...
by Leif Strom
August 31st, 2020, 5:11 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Dating of the Greek book of Enoch
Replies: 11
Views: 53357

Re: Dating of the Greek book of Enoch

I see the verses mentioned as referring to astronomical objects, stars, planets, and therefore interpret kosmos, in these cases, as meaning constellations, orders of stars, or lights. The use of kosmos in Greek Enoch is in 8:1 and 18:1, both in the original meaning (ornament), while in 20:2 and 4 it...
by Leif Strom
August 29th, 2020, 10:45 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Dating of the Greek book of Enoch
Replies: 11
Views: 53357

Re: Dating of the Greek book of Enoch

Thank you for the answer, it has helped me a lot. The reason for the question is that I am trying to find out in which time period the word kosmos in the Greek Book of Enoch should be set. In the LXX, it has an astronomical meaning, besides order, ornament, world, while in NT the astronomical meanin...
by Leif Strom
August 27th, 2020, 6:15 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Dating of the Greek book of Enoch
Replies: 11
Views: 53357

Dating of the Greek book of Enoch

Hello, Does anyone know if the Greek book of Enoch fragments have been dated (or believed to have been dated) - ie when the translations were made, from either Aramaic, or Geez? If not, may there be a way to determine its age by comparing it to the LXX, and to NT (and to other ancient greek literatu...

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