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by Jonathan Robie
July 21st, 2021, 5:29 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Hebrew / Greek texts to align
Replies: 8
Views: 255

Re: Hebrew / Greek texts to align

Ah, here's one place I can look, NETS includes a section called Translation Profile of the Greek for each book. For Ruth it starts like this: TRANSLATION PROFILE OF THE GREEK The book of Routh is a fairly literal translation of the Hebrew, with the Greek text often matching the Hebrew in a word-for-...
by Jonathan Robie
July 21st, 2021, 2:58 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Hebrew / Greek texts to align
Replies: 8
Views: 255

Re: Hebrew / Greek texts to align

For a project I am working on, I am looking for Hebrew / Greek texts where both the Hebrew and the Greek are natural and understandable, and where they have the same basic meaning, whether or not word order is similar or they say it in similar ways. What LXX passages would you look to first for thi...
by Jonathan Robie
July 21st, 2021, 9:02 am
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Hebrew / Greek texts to align
Replies: 8
Views: 255

Re: Hebrew / Greek texts to align

S Walch wrote: July 21st, 2021, 4:32 am I think the book of Jonah LXX is pretty much okay in this regard.
Yes, Jonah works nicely for what I need. Thanks!
by Jonathan Robie
July 20th, 2021, 7:08 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Hebrew / Greek texts to align
Replies: 8
Views: 255

Re: Hebrew / Greek texts to align

What kind of length do you have in mind? For instance, a passage that would fit into a single page of a textbook, or something much longer than that? Pericope-length or chapter-length would do. Initially, I just need sentences, where of course one sentence may be more than one sentence in the other...
by Jonathan Robie
July 20th, 2021, 3:48 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Hebrew / Greek texts to align
Replies: 8
Views: 255

Hebrew / Greek texts to align

For a project I am working on, I am looking for Hebrew / Greek texts where both the Hebrew and the Greek are natural and understandable, and where they have the same basic meaning, whether or not word order is similar or they say it in similar ways. What LXX passages would you look to first for this?
by Jonathan Robie
June 15th, 2021, 5:47 am
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Teaching the Genitive
Replies: 23
Views: 2716

Re: Teaching the Genitive

It would be nice to see an intermediate Greek seminary textbook with these kinds of explanations of the use of the cases as this one from "Lucian's A True Story, An Intermediate Greek Reader" Indeed. If I understand, the difference is that this starts from asking what ways a particular co...
by Jonathan Robie
June 13th, 2021, 10:06 am
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Teaching the Genitive
Replies: 23
Views: 2716

Re: Teaching the Genitive

I didn’t have a specific exegetical issue in mind, but thinking about it, there are perennial issues like the subjective vs. objective genitive πίστις Χριστοῦ which come to mind. (IIRC, no one here has volunteered subjective vs. objective genitives among the meanings of the genitives.) Let me stick...
by Jonathan Robie
June 12th, 2021, 1:36 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 2 Cor 8:7 - καὶ τῇ ἐξ ἡμῶν ἐν ὑμῖν ἀγάπῃ
Replies: 1
Views: 842

2 Cor 8:7 - καὶ τῇ ἐξ ἡμῶν ἐν ὑμῖν ἀγάπῃ

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this phrase. ἀλλ᾽ ὥσπερ ἐν παντὶ περισσεύετε, πίστει καὶ λόγῳ καὶ γνώσει καὶ πάσῃ σπουδῇ καὶ τῇ ἐξ ἡμῶν ἐν ὑμῖν ἀγάπῃ , ἵνα καὶ ἐν ταύτῃ τῇ χάριτι περισσεύητε. There are other readings: τῇ ἐξ ἡμῶν ἐν ὑμῖν ἀγάπῃ τῇ ἐξ ὑμῶν ἐν ἡμῖν ἀγάπῃ τῇ έξ ὑμῶν είς ἡμᾶς ἀγάπῃ τῇ ἐ...
by Jonathan Robie
June 12th, 2021, 12:35 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Teaching the Genitive
Replies: 23
Views: 2716

Re: Teaching the Genitive

I teach them that it's the "of" case, that if you plug in the word "of" before the word in translation you get most of the meanings. Sounds oversimplified, but it tends to work. Then we pick up the various uses of the genitive in context as we go along. Wallaces's 30 plus catego...
by Jonathan Robie
June 12th, 2021, 12:04 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Teaching the Genitive
Replies: 23
Views: 2716

Re: Teaching the Genitive

So even before I start on the alphabet I tell the students (with an evil grin) that we're going to learn this terribly, terribly, difficult language - Oo, it's so difficult, with all these funny letters. So let's have a look at what it looks like. Then I write πατηρ on the board, and say it a coupl...

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