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by Barry Hofstetter
May 15th, 2021, 7:32 am
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: The Weekend Papyrus
Replies: 0
Views: 9

The Weekend Papyrus

I thought I would start a new thread for these: Grenfell & Hunt describe this as "badly written and obscurely worded." See what you think. There are certainly some spelling variations... 1 Χαίροις Καλόκαιρε, 2 Κύριλλός σε προσαγο- 3 ρεύω. οὐκ ἤμην ἀπα- 4 θὴς ἀλόγως σε κατα- 5 λείπιν, ο...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 14th, 2021, 10:25 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: οἵτινες in Gal 2:4
Replies: 6
Views: 112

Re: οἵτινες in Gal 2:4

③ Quite oft. ὅστις takes the place of the simple rel. ὅς, ἥ, ὅ; this occurs occasionally in ancient Gk. usage (s. Hdt. 4, 8, 1 al.; Thu. 6, 3, 1; Demosth. 38, 6; 17; Kühner-G. II 399f; Schwyzer II 643 lit.), but more freq. in later Gk. Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., Bauer, W., & Gingrich, F. W. (200...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 13th, 2021, 10:42 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Matt. 21:17 Questioning Passive Deponency of αυλιζομαι
Replies: 9
Views: 187

Re: Matt. 21:17 Questioning Passive Deponency of αυλιζομαι

Barry, I also am one of those old dogs, but am trying to learn some new tricks, so I don't actively use the "D" word. The report by my student on Rachel Aubrey's article was very well done, deserving of an A, I believe. These are undergraduates, but destined for further study, so I am ple...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 13th, 2021, 8:31 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Participle in Matt. 27:55
Replies: 16
Views: 375

Re: Participle in Matt. 27:55

MAubrey wrote: May 12th, 2021, 8:41 am I'm a big fan of transparent terminology. But we still need to balance that with respect for the grammatical tradition, whether in classics or linguistics. It isn't an easy needle to thread. ;)
Absolutely, at times a bit like using a camel... :) But well worth the effort nonetheless.
by Barry Hofstetter
May 12th, 2021, 1:16 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Matt. 21:17 Questioning Passive Deponency of αυλιζομαι
Replies: 9
Views: 187

Re: Matt. 21:17 Questioning Passive Deponency of αυλιζομαι

Some really good responses above regarding the actual linguistic reality behind what we old dogs still call deponents. To explain the traditional terminology a bit better, a "middle deponent" is one which uses only middle forms throughout, even when as for the future and aorist there is a ...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 11th, 2021, 5:11 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Matt. 21:17 Questioning Passive Deponency of αυλιζομαι
Replies: 9
Views: 187

Re: Matt. 21:17 Questioning Passive Deponency of αυλιζομαι

It is what the traditional grammars call a passive deponent. There is no idea of "forced" and it is used consistently of "spend the night" throughout Greek literature. αὐλίζομαι impf. ηὐλιζόμην. Pass.: fut. αὐλισθήσομαι LXX; JosAs 9:5; 1 aor. ηὐλίσθην (s. αὐλή; Hom.+; OGI 730, 7 ...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 9th, 2021, 7:54 am
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: A papyrus for linguistic fun and profit...
Replies: 19
Views: 644

Re: A papyrus for linguistic fun and profit...

The voyage by Antaeopolite is very vexing, and each day I am depressed because of it, and am very worried by the matter. If it is necessary to give a fee to the brother of the mother of the son* of Axilla, you do well by giving it after you have received* it from Sarapion out of my own expense. Rem...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 7th, 2021, 11:52 am
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: A papyrus for linguistic fun and profit...
Replies: 19
Views: 644

Re: A papyrus for linguistic fun and profit...

Another one for this weekend. This one's a bit different, but suprisingly understandable. 1 Ὁ παράπλους τοῦ Ἀνταιοπολίτου 2 ὀχληρότατός ἐστιν καὶ καθʼ ἑκάσ- 3 την ἡμέραν βαροῦμαι διʼ αὐτὸν 4 καὶ λείαν τῷ πράγματι καταξύο- 5 μαι. ἐὰν δέῃ τῷ ἀδελφῶι τῆς μη- 6 τρὸς τῶν υἱῶν Ἀχιλλᾶ δοθῆναι 7 σπονδάριον ...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 6th, 2021, 7:31 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Participle in Matt. 27:55
Replies: 16
Views: 375

Re: Participle in Matt. 27:55

Sorry on the metalanguage puke. Perhaps the occupational hazard of writing a dissertation which touches in many ways on passages like this. Should have cleaned it up after I wrote it. I'm currently swimming in 4 or 5 other peoples' metalanguage and trying to carve out my own in the process. On top ...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 2nd, 2021, 8:34 am
Forum: Questions
Topic: What B-Greek does best
Replies: 6
Views: 246

Re: What B-Greek does best

When B-Greek began back in 1992 (see the archives ), it was a mailing list with little competition. In 2011, we moved it to a phpBB forum, and still had little competition. These days, there are plenty of Facebook groups and other groups to discuss biblical Greek. What does B-Greek do best, compare...

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