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by Barry Hofstetter
May 18th, 2021, 2:17 pm
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: How to study languages
Replies: 2
Views: 30

Re: How to study languages

Matthew, having spent some time with you reading Josephus, your Greek is at least at an intermediate level, so what you have been doing has borne at least some fruit! But the answer is to pursue it systematically. Teaching grammars with graded readings and exercises present just such systematic appr...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 17th, 2021, 11:48 am
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: The Weekend Papyrus
Replies: 2
Views: 78

Re: The Weekend Papyrus

MAubrey wrote: May 17th, 2021, 11:27 am That's quite an initial greeting there.

I, Kyrillos, greet you.
And notice the use of the optative χαίροις instead of the more usual χαῖρε.
by Barry Hofstetter
May 15th, 2021, 7:32 am
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: The Weekend Papyrus
Replies: 2
Views: 78

The Weekend Papyrus

I thought I would start a new thread for these: Grenfell & Hunt describe this as "badly written and obscurely worded." See what you think. There are certainly some spelling variations... 1 Χαίροις Καλόκαιρε, 2 Κύριλλός σε προσαγο- 3 ρεύω. οὐκ ἤμην ἀπα- 4 θὴς ἀλόγως σε κατα- 5 λείπιν, ο...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 14th, 2021, 10:25 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: οἵτινες in Gal 2:4
Replies: 6
Views: 188

Re: οἵτινες in Gal 2:4

③ Quite oft. ὅστις takes the place of the simple rel. ὅς, ἥ, ὅ; this occurs occasionally in ancient Gk. usage (s. Hdt. 4, 8, 1 al.; Thu. 6, 3, 1; Demosth. 38, 6; 17; Kühner-G. II 399f; Schwyzer II 643 lit.), but more freq. in later Gk. Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., Bauer, W., & Gingrich, F. W. (200...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 13th, 2021, 10:42 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Matt. 21:17 Questioning Passive Deponency of αυλιζομαι
Replies: 9
Views: 259

Re: Matt. 21:17 Questioning Passive Deponency of αυλιζομαι

Barry, I also am one of those old dogs, but am trying to learn some new tricks, so I don't actively use the "D" word. The report by my student on Rachel Aubrey's article was very well done, deserving of an A, I believe. These are undergraduates, but destined for further study, so I am ple...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 13th, 2021, 8:31 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Participle in Matt. 27:55
Replies: 16
Views: 522

Re: Participle in Matt. 27:55

MAubrey wrote: May 12th, 2021, 8:41 am I'm a big fan of transparent terminology. But we still need to balance that with respect for the grammatical tradition, whether in classics or linguistics. It isn't an easy needle to thread. ;)
Absolutely, at times a bit like using a camel... :) But well worth the effort nonetheless.
by Barry Hofstetter
May 12th, 2021, 1:16 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Matt. 21:17 Questioning Passive Deponency of αυλιζομαι
Replies: 9
Views: 259

Re: Matt. 21:17 Questioning Passive Deponency of αυλιζομαι

Some really good responses above regarding the actual linguistic reality behind what we old dogs still call deponents. To explain the traditional terminology a bit better, a "middle deponent" is one which uses only middle forms throughout, even when as for the future and aorist there is a ...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 11th, 2021, 5:11 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Matt. 21:17 Questioning Passive Deponency of αυλιζομαι
Replies: 9
Views: 259

Re: Matt. 21:17 Questioning Passive Deponency of αυλιζομαι

It is what the traditional grammars call a passive deponent. There is no idea of "forced" and it is used consistently of "spend the night" throughout Greek literature. αὐλίζομαι impf. ηὐλιζόμην. Pass.: fut. αὐλισθήσομαι LXX; JosAs 9:5; 1 aor. ηὐλίσθην (s. αὐλή; Hom.+; OGI 730, 7 ...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 9th, 2021, 7:54 am
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: A papyrus for linguistic fun and profit...
Replies: 19
Views: 755

Re: A papyrus for linguistic fun and profit...

The voyage by Antaeopolite is very vexing, and each day I am depressed because of it, and am very worried by the matter. If it is necessary to give a fee to the brother of the mother of the son* of Axilla, you do well by giving it after you have received* it from Sarapion out of my own expense. Rem...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 7th, 2021, 11:52 am
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: A papyrus for linguistic fun and profit...
Replies: 19
Views: 755

Re: A papyrus for linguistic fun and profit...

Another one for this weekend. This one's a bit different, but suprisingly understandable. 1 Ὁ παράπλους τοῦ Ἀνταιοπολίτου 2 ὀχληρότατός ἐστιν καὶ καθʼ ἑκάσ- 3 την ἡμέραν βαροῦμαι διʼ αὐτὸν 4 καὶ λείαν τῷ πράγματι καταξύο- 5 μαι. ἐὰν δέῃ τῷ ἀδελφῶι τῆς μη- 6 τρὸς τῶν υἱῶν Ἀχιλλᾶ δοθῆναι 7 σπονδάριον ...

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