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by Alan Bunning
September 4th, 2018, 11:26 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Legitimate word forms?
Replies: 28
Views: 16824

Re: Legitimate word forms?

I doubt your doubts, because multiple scribes wrote them and did not correct their “mistakes”, and in most cases, neither did any of the many subsequent hands which also did not bother to “correct” them. I'm concerned that this may be reading too much into scribes and later hands not correcting &qu...
by Alan Bunning
September 4th, 2018, 11:18 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Legitimate word forms?
Replies: 28
Views: 16824

Re: Legitimate word forms?

In order to deal with the question a person must think PHONOLOGICALLY. Yes, of course, which is how these examples were found in the first place! My program found them, not because they were spelled differently, but because they were NOT phonetic matches according the normal phonetic equivalents. S...
by Alan Bunning
September 1st, 2018, 10:58 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Legitimate word forms?
Replies: 28
Views: 16824

Re: Legitimate word forms?

It's an interesting question, isn't it? Based on Buth’s response, another way to look at it would be, how often does a common scribal error have to be repeated before it is considered an acceptable form. For example, “ain’t” was never considered to be correct English, but because its usage persiste...
by Alan Bunning
September 1st, 2018, 8:06 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Legitimate word forms?
Replies: 28
Views: 16824

Re: Legitimate word forms?

Perspective of the wider language and the history of the language is needed to make good judgement calls. ΕΣΙΝ? I don't think so. It is easy to leave off an [ι] but then again, there may have been a sub-dialect with ΕΣΙΝ. Still ΕΣΙΝ also sounds close to ΕΣΤΙΝ. ΕΚΧΘΡΟΥΣ? I don't think so. Just scrib...
by Alan Bunning
September 1st, 2018, 12:27 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Legitimate word forms?
Replies: 28
Views: 16824

Legitimate word forms?

In working through the early NT manuscripts, there are a number of word forms that are repeated, often by more than one different scribe, but are not found in any lexicon. My question is, how many times does a word need to appear before it gets to be considered a legitimate word form? For example, ε...
by Alan Bunning
August 3rd, 2018, 11:28 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11356

Re: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

FYI, I continued looking into the matter and my answer was not found in the statistics (although that certainly helped me find the problem), but by doing more reading. The answer was not that α = ο, or that α ≠ ο, or that there was that there was a continuum of sounds. Instead, it had to do with the...
by Alan Bunning
July 12th, 2018, 10:49 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11356

Re: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

I decided to look at this problem from a different angle this morning and only focus on words that are scribal corrections. I think this gets at the core of the problem better. The approximate counts where corrections were made (including endings): ο/ω correction: 22 times α/ο correction: 15 times α...
by Alan Bunning
July 12th, 2018, 9:56 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11356

Re: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

What do you do about scribal mistakes? I'm sure that's the explanation for οπο. Yes, οπο is a scribal mistake and so it does not get its own lexical entry :-). Here is what I said about this in my ever-increasing project description ( https://greekcntr.org/downloads/project.pdf ): “All the words in...
by Alan Bunning
July 11th, 2018, 11:48 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11356

Re: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

Thanks for that feedback. I do know that his work on this is in line with current scholarship. Yes, I respect his scholarship and in fact have been depending on it. In other words, Buth's conclusions rest on a large body of evidence and analysis that is too large to be presented in a forum. I would ...
by Alan Bunning
July 11th, 2018, 12:49 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11356

Re: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

How do you account for this? The silence is deafening here. In order to figure out the order of magnitude, I went ahead and did the same search for words where ο and ω were being swapped and found that there were about twice as many cases, but that is somewhat misleading because several of the word...

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