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- June 10th, 2014, 10:51 am
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: repetition or omission of the preposition
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repetition or omission of the preposition
Does the non-repetition of a preposition followed by two nouns joined by καί require that the two nouns form a hendiadys? I am looking at John 3:5 γεννηθῇ ἐξ ὕδατος καὶ πνεύματος. Nigel Turner, Syntax, states that in John's gospel, he has 15 opportunities to repeat the preposition, but does so only ...
- July 18th, 2012, 2:55 pm
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: temporal deixis in Acts 8:18
- Replies: 9
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Re: temporal deixis in Acts 8:18
I think you've got it at this point, but just to be excessively clear, the main verb is προσήνεγκεν, ἰδὼν is subordinate to προσήνεγκεν, δίδοται is subordinate to ἰδὼν. Yes, that is very clear. There is a hierarchical structure. Thank you! Yes, this must be Simon's thought/perception. I have looked...
- July 18th, 2012, 1:27 pm
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: temporal deixis in Acts 8:18
- Replies: 9
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Re: temporal deixis in Acts 8:18
Thank you! Yes, this must be Simon's thought/perception. I have looked at Stephen H. Levinsohn on this point: “When ὅτι occurs as a complementizer, this indicates that the propositional content of the complement is not the author’s description of a state of affairs, but rather the representation of ...
- July 18th, 2012, 12:10 pm
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: temporal deixis in Acts 8:18
- Replies: 9
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Re: temporal deixis in Acts 8:18
First off, a main verb is always a finite verb in Greek, so it cannot be the participle ἰδὼν. The participle is interpreted relative to the main verb. Let's look at Funk's Grammar : The 'tenses' of participles do not, strictly speaking, represent time but denote only aspect (Aktionsart, §§309f.). T...
- July 18th, 2012, 6:02 am
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: temporal deixis in Acts 8:18
- Replies: 9
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temporal deixis in Acts 8:18
I am a research student at London School of Theology working on Christian initiation in Luke-Acts. I would like to ask about how best to understand δίδοται in Acts 8:18. Can it be translated as "is given"? Bernard Comrie (Tense, 115) gives the sentence, "John said he is ill", vs....
- June 30th, 2012, 1:10 pm
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: historical present in Luke-Acts
- Replies: 19
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Re: historical present in Luke-Acts
I think your examples and argument has persuaded me that the grammatical argument for a case of Genette type metalepsis is tenuous at best. And, though others have seen erlebte rede here it seems that it is just a case of the present in a subordinate clause taking the time orientation of the main ve...
- June 29th, 2012, 1:35 pm
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: historical present in Luke-Acts
- Replies: 19
- Views: 7782
Re: historical present in Luke-Acts
Sounds good to me!Mark Lightman wrote:ἰδὼν μὲν οὖν τὴν Ῥώμην ῥώμην ἔχουσαν, ἑαυτὸν παρέδωκεν ὁ Ἰούδας....I would ask how the Greek language would represent the English sentence, "Judah, having seen that the Roman military is the mightiest on earth, surrendered."
- June 29th, 2012, 1:03 pm
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: historical present in Luke-Acts
- Replies: 19
- Views: 7782
Re: historical present in Luke-Acts
I don't think it makes sense to render it that way in English because it does not make sense at all in English. If I had to put it into proper English I would have no choice but to render with the past tense, as Stephen pointed out in his first post: "Simon seeing that the spirit was given thr...
- June 29th, 2012, 8:27 am
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: historical present in Luke-Acts
- Replies: 19
- Views: 7782
Re: historical present in Luke-Acts
[quote="David Lim"] I don't think it makes sense to render it that way in English because it does not make sense at all in English. If I had to put it into proper English I would have no choice but to render with the past tense, as Stephen pointed out in his first post: "Simon seeing...
- June 29th, 2012, 6:12 am
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: historical present in Luke-Acts
- Replies: 19
- Views: 7782
Re: historical present in Luke-Acts
I have to admit that I still feel that the use of metalepsis here to drive your interpretation of Acts 8:18 is a bit overcooked. May I suggest a different approach? It's the word ἰδών. Acts 8:18 doesn't say that Simon believed it, but that he saw it. Seeing something implicates its reality. So the ...