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by Andrew Chapman
August 15th, 2013, 7:56 am
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: σαυτοῦ
Replies: 26
Views: 7634

σαυτοῦ

Chrysostom, 15th Homily on Ephesians Τί οὖν, ἂν ᾖ, φησὶ, λοίδορος καὶ λάλος καὶ μέθυσος; Πόσαι δέ εἰσιν ἐλεύθεραι τοιαῦται; Πάντα δὲ τὰ ἐλαττώματα τῶν γυναικῶν φέρειν τοὺς ἄνδρας προσέταξεν ὁ Θεός. Μόνον μὴ ἔστω, φησὶ, πόρνη ἡ γυνὴ, καὶ πάντα τὰ λοιπὰ φέρε ἐλαττώματα. Κἂν μέθυσος ᾖ, κἂν λοίδορος, κἂ...
by Andrew Chapman
July 12th, 2013, 1:04 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τινες ἐξ αὐτων ἄνδρες Acts 11:20
Replies: 11
Views: 1802

Re: τινες ἐξ αὐτων ἄνδρες Acts 11:20

While disciples are obviously believers, is the converse true? To me, to call someone a μαθητής is probably saying something more than that they believe. Does it not perhaps carry a connotation of obedience and sincerity - certainly this might be said of Ananias of Damascus, Dorcas, and Timothy. Cou...
by Andrew Chapman
July 12th, 2013, 6:31 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τινες ἐξ αὐτων ἄνδρες Acts 11:20
Replies: 11
Views: 1802

Re: τινες ἐξ αὐτων ἄνδρες Acts 11:20

Thank you for all your answers. I think my original question re Acts 11:20, should perhaps have been phrased: 'Is it possible that τινες is being used adjectivally rather than substantivally?' - I have read in a grammar (Blass) that its position when used adjectivally is unrestricted, and that it ca...
by Andrew Chapman
July 11th, 2013, 2:49 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: τινες ἐξ αὐτων ἄνδρες Acts 11:20
Replies: 11
Views: 1802

τινες ἐξ αὐτων ἄνδρες Acts 11:20

Please forgive me asking a very tiny point, but it might be of relevance to an argument advanced by one Joseph Prince, that we know that Ananias and Sapphira were unbelievers because Ananias is introduced in Acts 5:1 as Ἀνὴρ δέ τις Ἁνανίας, and that ἀνὴρ τις is a term used only of unbelievers (Acts ...
by Andrew Chapman
June 21st, 2013, 1:14 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: οὐδέ in Galatians 3:28
Replies: 2
Views: 686

Re: οὐδέ in Galatians 3:28

Thanks, Stephen. Yes, I realised recently how similar 'and' and 'or' are in negative statements: 'no salt and pepper, please' has much the same effect as 'no salt or pepper, please'. I perhaps should clarify that Payne's statement came from his paper on οὐδέ in 1 Timothy 2:12. He builds up an empiri...
by Andrew Chapman
June 21st, 2013, 6:49 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: οὐδέ in Galatians 3:28
Replies: 2
Views: 686

οὐδέ in Galatians 3:28

οὐκ ἔνι Ἰουδαῖος οὐδὲ Ἕλλην, οὐκ ἔνι δοῦλος οὐδὲ ἐλεύθερος, οὐκ ἔνι ἄρσεν καὶ θῆλυ· πάντες γὰρ ὑμεῖς εἷς ἐστε ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ. I read this to mean that in Christ, and particularly with salvation and baptism in view, there is no Jew and there is no Greek. One might say that, standing by the pool of b...
by Andrew Chapman
June 21st, 2013, 6:26 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: The use of ἢ in 1Cor14:36
Replies: 5
Views: 2524

Re: The use of ἢ in 1Cor14:36

Putting it simply, I think Paul is referring to two possibilities: A - women should not speak in the church, which is what he is teaching; and B - women may speak in the church, which some at least of the Corinthians are claiming. The primary meaning of ἤ is 'or'. Verses 34-35 are a statement of A, ...
by Andrew Chapman
June 19th, 2013, 3:02 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Tim 2:12 - should both infinitives apply to ANHR?
Replies: 11
Views: 4516

Re: 1 Tim 2:12 - should both infinitives apply to ANHR?

διδάσκειν δὲ γυναικὶ οὐκ ἐπιτρέπω, οὐδὲ αὐθεντεῖν ἀνδρός, ἀλλ' εἶναι ἐν ἡσυχίᾳ. I looked this up in some of the older commentaries - Ellicott, Fairbairn, Bernard, Kelly - they all take it for granted that διδασκειν here is intransitive. For example, Kelly: But to teach I permit not a woman nor to e...
by Andrew Chapman
June 13th, 2013, 1:33 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Severian on 1 Corinthians 11:3
Replies: 7
Views: 3680

Re: Severian on 1 Corinthians 11:3

Remarkably, I came across a translation of the most difficult section of this today. It is in 'Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture: 1 and 2 Corinthians, Bray and Oden', p.105: 'Since man did not make woman, the question here does not concern the origin of woman. Rather it concerns only [the re...
by Andrew Chapman
June 12th, 2013, 1:57 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Severian on 1 Corinthians 11:3
Replies: 7
Views: 3680

Re: Severian on 1 Corinthians 11:3

Thanks very much, Stirling, that's tremendously helpful, and much appreciated. So attempting a rough translation, and no doubt bowdlerizing your more subtle points in the process: Εἰ ἀσεβῶς ἐκλαμβάνοι τις, κατὰ τὸν τῆς θεότητος λόγον, εἰ δὲ (20) εὐσεβῶς, κατὰ τὸν τῆς οἰκονομίας Lampe gives 'ordering...

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