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by Jesse Goulet
January 31st, 2012, 5:55 pm
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
Replies: 27
Views: 39825

Re: Buth and diacritic marks/accents

A couple of clarifications might help the above. 1. The 9th century miniscule revolution in texts did not "maintain" the three accents, but ADDED them. They were not being pronounced in the 9th c.. This is what is confusing though. If they weren't pronouncing the accents....then why were ...
by Jesse Goulet
January 31st, 2012, 4:49 am
Forum: Vocabulary
Topic: root of πόλις
Replies: 4
Views: 1966

root of πόλις

Mounce lists the root of πόλις, -εως as "πολς", but doesn't this word have a consonantal iota in its root? I thought it would be "πολι" instead.
by Jesse Goulet
January 31st, 2012, 4:07 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
Replies: 27
Views: 39825

Re: Buth and diacritic marks/accents

I have often pondered whether that was the actual practice for every Greek speaker, or whether that was some 'ideal' and the actual raising varied according to person and situation. I'm guessing this is the case, since Koine was the spoken language of the Average Mediterranean Joe (whom I like to c...
by Jesse Goulet
January 31st, 2012, 4:01 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
Replies: 27
Views: 39825

Re: Buth and diacritic marks/accents

A couple of clarifications might help the above. 1. The 9th century miniscule revolution in texts did not "maintain" the three accents, but ADDED them. They were not being pronounced in the 9th c.. This is what is confusing though. If they weren't pronouncing the accents....then why were ...
by Jesse Goulet
January 29th, 2012, 11:33 pm
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
Replies: 27
Views: 39825

Re: Buth and diacritic marks/accents

Greek accents were originally tonal and the three accents corresponded to differences in pitch (acute = rising, grave=falling, circumflex=rise-fall ). Over time, these tonal accents gave way to stress accents, in which all three simply correspond to an increase in volume. This is how English does a...
by Jesse Goulet
January 29th, 2012, 10:36 pm
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
Replies: 27
Views: 39825

Re: Buth and diacritic marks/accents

All very interesting, but none of this tells me how accents were pronounced. I have Buth's vowels, diphthongs, and consonants down to a decent habit now (such as pronouncing the beta as a "v"), but I'm still confused how to go about using the accents.
by Jesse Goulet
January 25th, 2012, 3:29 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
Replies: 27
Views: 39825

Buth and diacritic marks/accents

I read at Buth's website that the rough-breathing vowels/diphthongs fell out of usage by the Koine period, and the acute, circumflex, and grave accents fell out of usage after the Classical period as well. So if this is true......then why in the world are they still present in our latest editions of...
by Jesse Goulet
November 8th, 2011, 6:11 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: verbal aspect
Replies: 17
Views: 15984

Re: verbal aspect

Although not everyone likes Daniel Wallace's Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics , I'd say it's the best you can spend your money on, if you want to buy something.. We had to purchase it for my Greek Exegesis class, but we were too busy translating and reviewing our first year basics that we never real...
by Jesse Goulet
November 8th, 2011, 6:07 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: verbal aspect
Replies: 17
Views: 15984

Re: verbal aspect

Yes, what he says here is true of Koine Greek, certainly what he says in what I have excerpted. *thumbs up* Rijksbaron believes that a verb form expresses time, but it indicates absolute time only in the indicative. He also believes that the augment ε- indicates past time (note that it is used only...
by Jesse Goulet
November 8th, 2011, 4:35 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: verbal aspect
Replies: 17
Views: 15984

Re: verbal aspect

I think you're trying to avoid getting into the details of the debate, and focus on what is most widely accepted. I'll try to give you a little guidance, the real experts will probably step in and say more. Yes I just want the basics for now. If I were you, I might start with these two quotes from ...

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