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- January 31st, 2012, 5:55 pm
- Forum: Pronunciation
- Topic: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
- Replies: 27
- Views: 39825
Re: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
A couple of clarifications might help the above. 1. The 9th century miniscule revolution in texts did not "maintain" the three accents, but ADDED them. They were not being pronounced in the 9th c.. This is what is confusing though. If they weren't pronouncing the accents....then why were ...
- January 31st, 2012, 4:49 am
- Forum: Vocabulary
- Topic: root of πόλις
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1966
root of πόλις
Mounce lists the root of πόλις, -εως as "πολς", but doesn't this word have a consonantal iota in its root? I thought it would be "πολι" instead.
- January 31st, 2012, 4:07 am
- Forum: Pronunciation
- Topic: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
- Replies: 27
- Views: 39825
Re: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
I have often pondered whether that was the actual practice for every Greek speaker, or whether that was some 'ideal' and the actual raising varied according to person and situation. I'm guessing this is the case, since Koine was the spoken language of the Average Mediterranean Joe (whom I like to c...
- January 31st, 2012, 4:01 am
- Forum: Pronunciation
- Topic: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
- Replies: 27
- Views: 39825
Re: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
A couple of clarifications might help the above. 1. The 9th century miniscule revolution in texts did not "maintain" the three accents, but ADDED them. They were not being pronounced in the 9th c.. This is what is confusing though. If they weren't pronouncing the accents....then why were ...
- January 29th, 2012, 11:33 pm
- Forum: Pronunciation
- Topic: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
- Replies: 27
- Views: 39825
Re: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
Greek accents were originally tonal and the three accents corresponded to differences in pitch (acute = rising, grave=falling, circumflex=rise-fall ). Over time, these tonal accents gave way to stress accents, in which all three simply correspond to an increase in volume. This is how English does a...
- January 29th, 2012, 10:36 pm
- Forum: Pronunciation
- Topic: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
- Replies: 27
- Views: 39825
Re: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
All very interesting, but none of this tells me how accents were pronounced. I have Buth's vowels, diphthongs, and consonants down to a decent habit now (such as pronouncing the beta as a "v"), but I'm still confused how to go about using the accents.
- January 25th, 2012, 3:29 am
- Forum: Pronunciation
- Topic: Buth and diacritic marks/accents
- Replies: 27
- Views: 39825
Buth and diacritic marks/accents
I read at Buth's website that the rough-breathing vowels/diphthongs fell out of usage by the Koine period, and the acute, circumflex, and grave accents fell out of usage after the Classical period as well. So if this is true......then why in the world are they still present in our latest editions of...
- November 8th, 2011, 6:11 pm
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: verbal aspect
- Replies: 17
- Views: 15984
Re: verbal aspect
Although not everyone likes Daniel Wallace's Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics , I'd say it's the best you can spend your money on, if you want to buy something.. We had to purchase it for my Greek Exegesis class, but we were too busy translating and reviewing our first year basics that we never real...
- November 8th, 2011, 6:07 pm
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: verbal aspect
- Replies: 17
- Views: 15984
Re: verbal aspect
Yes, what he says here is true of Koine Greek, certainly what he says in what I have excerpted. *thumbs up* Rijksbaron believes that a verb form expresses time, but it indicates absolute time only in the indicative. He also believes that the augment ε- indicates past time (note that it is used only...
- November 8th, 2011, 4:35 pm
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: verbal aspect
- Replies: 17
- Views: 15984
Re: verbal aspect
I think you're trying to avoid getting into the details of the debate, and focus on what is most widely accepted. I'll try to give you a little guidance, the real experts will probably step in and say more. Yes I just want the basics for now. If I were you, I might start with these two quotes from ...