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by Bill Ross
October 30th, 2020, 8:32 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: In John 20:31 variants, is the difference between πιστεύσητε and πιστεύητε significant?
Replies: 12
Views: 586

Re: In John 20:31 variants, is the difference between πιστεύσητε and πιστεύητε significant?

If we take the aorist as ingressive, maybe "so you might believe", and the aorist as, "so you come to believe that..."?
by Bill Ross
October 30th, 2020, 12:04 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: In John 20:31 variants, is the difference between πιστεύσητε and πιστεύητε significant?
Replies: 12
Views: 586

Re: In John 20:31 variants, is the difference between πιστεύσητε and πιστεύητε significant?

Thank you Jason. The NLT renders the version with πιστεύσητε as "...so that you may continue to believe[fn]...". The footnote says "20:31 Some manuscripts read that you may believe." Also, the interlinear of the BlueLetterBible parses πιστεύσητε as aorist active subjunctive. Is π...
by Bill Ross
October 29th, 2020, 4:55 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: In John 20:31 variants, is the difference between πιστεύσητε and πιστεύητε significant?
Replies: 12
Views: 586

In John 20:31 variants, is the difference between πιστεύσητε and πιστεύητε significant?

In John 20:31 variants, is the difference between πιστεύσητε and πιστεύητε significant? ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 20:31 Greek NT: Westcott and Hort 1881 ταῦτα δὲ γέγραπται ἵνα πιστεύητε ὅτι Ἰησοῦς ἐστὶν ὁ χριστὸς ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ θεοῦ, καὶ ἵνα πιστεύοντες ζωὴν ἔχητε ἐν τῷ ὀνόματι αὐτοῦ. ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 20:31 Greek NT: Gr...
by Bill Ross
October 17th, 2020, 6:57 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: What is the effect of adding μέν to Romans 6:11?
Replies: 6
Views: 651

Re: What is the effect of adding μέν to Romans 6:11?

I see what you mean. Okay, thanks Barry.
by Bill Ross
October 16th, 2020, 11:16 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: What is the effect of adding μέν to Romans 6:11?
Replies: 6
Views: 651

Re: What is the effect of adding μέν to Romans 6:11?

Thayers specifically points to this verse (Romans 6:11) as an example of the concessive usage: "...I. Examples in which the particle μέν is followed in another member by an adversative particle expressed. Of these examples there are two kinds: 1. those in which μέν has a concessive force, and δ...
by Bill Ross
October 15th, 2020, 7:02 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: What is the effect of adding μέν to Romans 6:11?
Replies: 6
Views: 651

Re: What is the effect of adding μέν to Romans 6:11?

Okay, well 12 translations I see on BibleHub.com but yes, it is usually untranslated.

So no effect at all?
by Bill Ross
October 14th, 2020, 11:57 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: What is the effect of adding μέν to Romans 6:11?
Replies: 6
Views: 651

What is the effect of adding μέν to Romans 6:11?

[Rom 6:11 MGNT] (11) οὕτως καὶ ὑμεῖς λογίζεσθε ἑαυτοὺς εἶναι νεκροὺς μὲν τῇ ἁμαρτίᾳ ζῶντας δὲ τῷ θεῷ ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ English translations seem to normally translate μέν as "indeed" which to my ears indicates that the assertion is absolutely true without qualification: indeed adverb in·​dee...
by Bill Ross
October 10th, 2020, 2:31 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Romans 1:3. Own translation. Grammar check
Replies: 19
Views: 1733

Re: Romans 1:3. Own translation. Grammar check

Romans 1:3 περὶ τοῦ υἱοῦ αὐτοῦ, τοῦ γενομένου ἐκ σπέρματος Δαυὶδ κατὰ σάρκα, (concerning the Son of him, the having come into being out from the seed [singular] of David according to the flesh,) Hello, I have translated the above text as, “the having come into being out from the seed [singular] of ...

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