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Blog on particles in Greek
Posted: July 15th, 2021, 5:38 pm
by James Spinti
Via Chuck Jones on AWOL (
https://ancientworldonline.blogspot.com ... cient.html):
https://particuliterate.com/
Seems the emphasis is on Classical; the most recent post, from July 13, 2021 is on ἀλλά. Rick Brannan did a serious study on his blog a few years ago, mainly on its use in koine, but I've lost the reference.
James
Re: Blog on particles in Greek
Posted: July 17th, 2021, 10:48 am
by MAubrey
Thanks for the heads up, James!
Re: Blog on particles in Greek
Posted: July 17th, 2021, 5:37 pm
by Jason Hare
That looks great! Thanks!
Re: Blog on particles in Greek
Posted: July 17th, 2021, 8:40 pm
by Barry Hofstetter
No replacement for Denniston, but a nice supplement
Re: Blog on particles in Greek
Posted: July 18th, 2021, 2:31 am
by Stephen Carlson
Barry Hofstetter wrote: ↑July 17th, 2021, 8:40 pm
No replacement for Denniston, but a nice supplement
Denniston has tons of examples (which is great) but outdated theory (which isn’t). I recommend the new Cambridge Grammar of Classical Greek for particles.
Re: Blog on particles in Greek
Posted: July 18th, 2021, 9:33 am
by MAubrey
Stephen Carlson wrote: ↑July 18th, 2021, 2:31 am
Barry Hofstetter wrote: ↑July 17th, 2021, 8:40 pm
No replacement for Denniston, but a nice supplement
Denniston has tons of examples (which is great) but outdated theory (which isn’t). I recommend the new Cambridge Grammar of Classical Greek for particles.
Don't forget
Particles in Ancient Greek Discourse!
https://chs.harvard.edu/book/bonifazi-d ... discourse/
Re: Blog on particles in Greek
Posted: July 18th, 2021, 6:18 pm
by Barry Hofstetter
You guys make me feel old. Outdated his theory of language may be, but he has an encyclopedic knowledge of the language, and his general theory doesn't usually affect his analyses of individual particles and conclusion. I would be careful about dismissing him.
The Cambridge grammar is good for what it has, but only for what it has, and it doesn't really have that much.
Mike, the discourse text looks really good.
Re: Blog on particles in Greek
Posted: July 18th, 2021, 8:34 pm
by Stephen Carlson
Barry Hofstetter wrote: ↑July 18th, 2021, 6:18 pm
You guys make me feel old. Outdated his theory of language may be, but he has an encyclopedic knowledge of the language, and his general theory doesn't usually affect his analyses of individual particles and conclusion. I would be careful about dismissing him.
I beg to differ. Since his analysis and conclusions are theory-bound, it’s very tough to unravel observation from description.
Barry Hofstetter wrote: ↑July 18th, 2021, 6:18 pm
The Cambridge grammar is good for what it has, but only for what it has, and it doesn't really have that much.
Au contraire, the CGCG has 40 pages on particles.
Re: Blog on particles in Greek
Posted: July 18th, 2021, 9:11 pm
by Barry Hofstetter
Stephen Carlson wrote: ↑July 18th, 2021, 8:34 pm
I beg to differ. Since his analysis and conclusions are theory-bound, it’s very tough to unravel observation from description.
Begging is unbecoming...

Examples?
Au contraire, the CGCG has 40 pages on particles.
And you think that's sufficient for a subject of that complexity? It's not even the length of a decent monograph.
Re: Blog on particles in Greek
Posted: July 19th, 2021, 2:19 am
by Stephen Carlson
Barry Hofstetter wrote: ↑July 18th, 2021, 9:11 pm
And you think that's sufficient for a subject of that complexity? It's not even the length of a decent monograph.
This goalpost shifting is getting tedious. The fact of the matter is that yhe CGCG has an excellent treatment of particles, and I stand by it.