Apollonius Canon as Stated by Apollonius

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Apollonius Canon as Stated by Apollonius

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Can anyone point out where in his works Apollonius states his famed canon? If it so happens that you have the greek (and english?) handy that might a help.

I found:
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-gr ... 55383.html

However, though the comments are helpful they:
(1) Don't actually answer Jarek Romanowski's question, nor the same question that I'm asking now.
(2) Unfortunately Terry Cook's (?) useful list of quotations does not cite the works they are from.

Thanks
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Replying to my own post...

Wikipedia and a PM from a list member pointed me towards the full text of Apollonius, but not the particular passage:
http://schmidhauser.us/apollonius/works/

But my secular technical classical greek is such that those monkeys might be getting well through Hamlet before I'll find it myself by attempting to 'skim' read.


So I tried another tack and looked up Middleton's Doctrine of the Article (1833), p. 36 where he does cite Apollonius "De Synt. p.90." but thus far I can't identify the edition Middleton is working with:
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=0Lf ... &q&f=false


However here's an early C19 century edition of Apollonius:
https://archive.org/details/deconstructioneo00apoluoft

Anyone fancy a gander?
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OK, it looks like your early C19 century edition of Apollonius is Bekker's 1817 edition while Middleton cited his earlier edition. Fortunately, the page numbers for the earlier edition are found in the margin. This the cite page 90 in the earlier edition corresponds to page (83-)84 of the later Bekker edition. For more information about the editions of Apollonius see here: http://schmidhauser.us/apollonius/bibli ... /editions/

The relevant passage is in the middle of section 1.42 and it reads as follows:
Apoll. Dysc., De Constr. 1.42 wrote:Καὶ μήποτε εὐλόγως τὰ προσηγορικὰ δύο ἄρθρα αἰτεῖ. οὐ γὰρ ἔνδεκτον ἀναφέρεσθαι κτῆμά τινος, τοῦ κτήτορος μὴ οὐχὶ προαναφερομένου· ἢ γὰρ ἀμφότερα χωρὶς ἄρθρου, λέοντος σκυμνίον ἔδραμεν, ἢ ἀμφότερα συνανενεχθήσεται, τὸ τοῦ λέοντος σκυμνίον ἔδραμε.
There is an English translation, Fred W. Householder, Syntax of Apollonius Dyscolus (Studies in the History of the Language Sciences 23; Philadelphia: John Benjamins, 1981), and it reads as follows, with the translator's commentary enclosed in double brackets:
Householder 1981:78 wrote:And perhaps it's natural and right for common nouns to take two articles, since it's hardly likely that someone's possession could be known if the possessor wasn't also known even earlier. [[The argument fails for indefinite possessors—"someone's slave", i.e. "the slave of somone"—but A.D. ignores this case here.]] Either both nouns occur without an article:

1.293 leontos skumnion edramen ("A lion's cub ran. . . ")

or both alike are anaphoric:

1.294 to tou leontos skumnion edrame ("The lion's cub ran. . . ")
I hope this is what you were looking for.
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Thanks Stephen! That was a great help.
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After finding some of Householder online, my favourite quote so far:

"The degree Dyscolus was a Whorfian prisoner of his technical vocabulary is striking." p. 1
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