Lemmatization

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RandallButh
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Re: Lemmatization

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Paul-Nitz wrote:Using Infinitives for Principal Parts
I’m not sure if it would be good to list principal parts by infinitive. It would show rare or theoretical forms. But I do believe it would work as far as showing stem changes, except for maybe the Middle Perfect. Maybe I've got the wrong forms in the examples below.

I’ve organized the two examples by the 3-pattern system 1) ειν-σαι, 2) -σθαι, 3) θηναι. It seemed to work out better than either listing –θῆναι pattern at the end of both the κοινη (Active) and εαυτικη (Middle/pass) lists, or having one long list that would include all three patterns.


-ειν, -σαι παράδειγμα
  • Indic_______φέρω_________οἴσω_________ἤνεγκα_________ἐνήνοχα
    Infin_______φέρειν_________οἴσειν________ἐνέγκαι_________ἐνηνοχέναι
-εσθαι, -ασθαι παράδειγμα
  • Indic_______φέρομαι_______οἴσομαι_______ἠνεγκάμην______ἐνήνεγμαι
    Infin_______φέρεσθαι______οἴσεσθαι______ἐνεγκέσθαι______ἐνηνόχθαι
-θῆναι παράδειγμα
  • Indic__________________________________ἠνέχθην
    Infin__________________________________ἐνεχθῆναι


-ειν, -σαι παράδειγμα
  • Indic_______γράφω________γράψω________ἔγραψα_______γέγραφα
    Infin_______γράφειν________γράψειν_______γράψαι________γεγραφέναι
-εσθαι, -ασθαι παράδειγμα
  • Indic_______γράφομαι______γράψομαι______ἐγραψάημν____γέγραμμαι
    Infin_______γράφεσθαι_____γράψεσθαι_____γράψασθαι_____γεγράφθαι
-θῆναι παράδειγμα
  • Indic__________________________________ἐγράφην
    Infin__________________________________γραφῆναι [/size]
Paul, the table is nice and the space is helpful.

Is there an easy way to prioritize the aorist for the eyes?

PS: ἐνέγκασθαι, which matches your active choice and indicative middle, though someone probably used ἐνεγκέσθαι too.
Also, some forms start to stretch one's imagination, like ἐνήνεγμαι when one might say ἦγμαι ἦχθαι [ἠγμένος] from ἀγαγεῖν ἄγειν.
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Re: Lemmatization

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What I like about Paul's list is that it makes it easier to see how to use the morphological information in the infinitives to derive the principal parts, and that's an important skill if people memorize just the infinitives. Aligning the "infinitive principal parts" with the traditional ones makes it easier to see how they correspond.

I would probably still add the occurrences of the verb found in the GNT. That's easy to generate.
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Re: Lemmatization

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Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:However, there might be an easier way. There is an xml file greek.morph.xml which includes words in different forms and their possible lemmas.

!!! SNIP !!!

Could this be used in some way?
Absolutely. That's much more convenient even than using HTTP calls. Alan and I will be playing with this.
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
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